Raw broadsword vs raw astora straight sword vs raw longsword at sl20 invasions?

[Finnfinity]

which is better

[Saffiron]

for sl 20 i advise irityll straight sword + 1 fire/chaos dagger

[Finnfinity]

i prefer a buffable weapon since I got the xanthous ashes (infinite golden pine resins)

[Alariel]

Since Astora has the lowest damage I would go with Longsword ( for it's moveset). Also you could invest this faith points you need for Astora in some other stats.
But yes, the Irithyll Straight Sword is a good choice too.

[Alariel]

Originally posted by Finnfinity:

i prefer a buffable weapon since I got the xanthous ashes (infinite golden pine resins)

Haha, yeah. I have seen you got your lightning resins and bundles.

[Finnfinity]

Originally posted by Alariel:

Since Astora has the lowest damage I would go with Longsword ( for it's moveset). Also you could invest this faith points you need for Astora in some other stats.
But yes, the Irithyll Straight Sword is a good choice too.

it really has the lowest damage? Even on +2? Why tf is it worse than the longsword in every way?

[Alariel]

Originally posted by Finnfinity:

Originally posted by Alariel:

Since Astora has the lowest damage I would go with Longsword ( for it's moveset). Also you could invest this faith points you need for Astora in some other stats.
But yes, the Irithyll Straight Sword is a good choice too.

it really has the lowest damage? Even on +2? Why tf is it worse than the longsword in every way?

yes.
Some time ago too many players complained about that low level "op invaders" with Raw Astora.
And Fromsoft created a "balance patch" to nerf it, together with some other stupid things.

[Finnfinity]

Originally posted by Alariel:

Originally posted by Finnfinity:

it really has the lowest damage? Even on +2? Why tf is it worse than the longsword in every way?

yes.
Some time ago too many players complained about that low level "op invaders" with Raw Astora.
And Fromsoft created a "balance patch" to nerf it, together with some other stupid things.

WHY NERF IT TO THE POINT WHERE THERE IS LITERALLY NO USE FOR IT THO

[Alariel]

Originally posted by Finnfinity:

Originally posted by Alariel:

yes.
Some time ago too many players complained about that low level "op invaders" with Raw Astora.
And Fromsoft created a "balance patch" to nerf it, together with some other stupid things.

WHY NERF IT TO THE POINT WHERE THERE IS LITERALLY NO USE FOR IT THO

I have no idea WHY? Maybe ask Fromsoft?
Imo almost every balance patch made many things worse. ( I didn't mean they nerfed stupid things, I mean, they did stupid things with some patches.)
At this time they nerfed the Astora SS my SL 20 char was already on ng+2. After the patch he dealt so less damage, it was frustrating.

[Pät Mc Garry]

Originally posted by Finnfinity:

which is better

broadsword: big damage
longsword: range, pokes and decent damage
astora straight sword: same as the longsword but with less stamina consumption

[Finnfinity]

Originally posted by Pat's Laggy IFV-6c Panther:

Originally posted by Finnfinity:

which is better

broadsword: big damage
longsword: range, pokes and decent damage
astora straight sword: same as the longsword but with less stamina consumption

Less stamina consumption huh? So it DOES have a reason to exist

[strike478]

Originally posted by Alariel:

Originally posted by Finnfinity:

it really has the lowest damage? Even on +2? Why tf is it worse than the longsword in every way?

yes.
Some time ago too many players complained about that low level "op invaders" with Raw Astora.
And Fromsoft created a "balance patch" to nerf it, together with some other stupid things.

What an evil players how dared they get tired of "astora" or die SL20 meta.
Now variety is killing this game.
They sould make 1 more balance patch or hire Capcom to do it (do you remember how Capp'ys kept buffing Cammy untill 50% entrants in each bigger tournament were Cammy while game had 30 other characters to choose from?).
Variety is so bad.

[Finnfinity]

Originally posted by strike478:

Originally posted by Alariel:

yes.
Some time ago too many players complained about that low level "op invaders" with Raw Astora.
And Fromsoft created a "balance patch" to nerf it, together with some other stupid things.

What an evil players how dared they get tired of "astora" or die SL20 meta.
Now variety is killing this game.
They sould make 1 more balance patch or hire Capcom to do it (do you remember how Capp'ys kept buffing Cammy untill 50% entrants in each bigger tournament were Cammy while game had 30 other characters to choose from?).
Variety is so bad.

The patch didn't increae variety, it just changed the meta. Now everyone is running around with iron round shield and longsword. What's the difference?