What to do after lvl 80 (str build)?

[Ferrarius_Christi]

I dunno I feel like my character is already very good, after all it's a simple STR build with UGS.
What can I do? I'm unsure on how to proceed. What could make my char more competitive on meta level?

Add life + stamina to make him run and tank more
Add faith + attunement to make him cast lightning miracles

Any other advice is welcome

[VonRaven 666]

i think i would go for faith. get the tears of denial at least,. maybe even max out sunlight and dark moon covenant, get sunlight blessings and darkmoon stuff..but it depends a bit on if youre into pvp or just playing through the game ng+++...

[TrueArchery]

Discard the ultra and use a better weapon.

Alternatively use a dualwield setup with a fast weapon like a straight sword.

Level health. A lot. The "27 Vigor meta" is a meme, you want around 40. The Prisoner's Chain is a really good ring, it's basically 15 free levels for an almost neglegible penalty.

But a bit of Faith is pretty good. 18 to be exact, it lets you use the Sacred Chime of Filianore (or rather, its weaponart) and the spells Replenishment and Tears of Denial (you need 18 Atn to attune both these spells). They give you a lot more effective HP.

[VonRaven 666]

Originally posted by TrueArchery:

Discard the ultra and use a better weapon.

Alternatively use a dualwield setup with a fast weapon like a straight sword.

Level health. A lot. The "27 Vigor meta" is a meme, you want around 40. The Prisoner's Chain is a really good ring, it's basically 15 free levels for an almost neglegible penalty.

But a bit of Faith is pretty good. 18 to be exact, it lets you use the Sacred Chime of Filianore (or rather, its weaponart) and the spells Replenishment and Tears of Denial (you need 18 Atn to attune both these spells). They give you a lot more effective HP.

alot more detailed than my morning comment haha.. I would agree with this.

[Tao314zdin]

Originally posted by Raptor_Fawr:

What to do after lvl 80 (str build)?

Are you at ng+7+, no? > go beat the game few more times

Have 699 pale tongs and sunlight medals, no? > go press on this red thingy that looks at you for some jolly host spanking.

Mb you want to make sl 80 mage bulid now?

^choices are all up to you. as for leveling sl 80 is all you ever need for PVE and for PVP it is just a matter of choice which kind of builds you want to face. Go higher if you want to see more spells and ToD on every second player, in that case getting ToD yourself is also a good idea as was mentioned.

[Argstein]

forget low-level lightning miracles... they're pretty weak even at high level. i suggest just take extra HP & Stam if you already have a solid build to go with it

[Seferofe]

Originally posted by asdfwasdf:

forget low-level lightning miracles... they're pretty weak even at high level. i suggest just take extra HP & Stam if you already have a solid build to go with it

They're not saying to get 18 faith for lightning miracles, but rather for the regen miracle, ToD and filianore chime regen. A lot of people get 18 faith (or 13 and swap the priestess ring) on physical builds just for those 2 miracles.

[Gwyn]

Originally posted by TrueArchery:

Discard the ultra and use a better weapon.

Alternatively use a dualwield setup with a fast weapon like a straight sword.

Level health. A lot. The "27 Vigor meta" is a meme, you want around 40. The Prisoner's Chain is a really good ring, it's basically 15 free levels for an almost neglegible penalty.

But a bit of Faith is pretty good. 18 to be exact, it lets you use the Sacred Chime of Filianore (or rather, its weaponart) and the spells Replenishment and Tears of Denial (you need 18 Atn to attune both these spells). They give you a lot more effective HP.

Disagree.
- UGS good in pve and can be really good in pvp or invasions too.
- 27 vigor may be low for trades with UGS, but if you'll make faith regen build and play patiently, you may be ok with 27 vigor.
- prisoner's chain good on low/mid levels, but if a guy going to SL100-120 it's not worth it.
Agree about faith and regens. You can go even 40 faith for weapon buffs.

[Ferrarius_Christi]

My main problem is patience. The ultra I am using is the Lothric Heavy +10 because I really like the moveset, it's similar to the zweihander (which I am in love for) but it's not really helpful against people who roll all the time. I sometimes 1hand/2hand it to reach at different speed and confuse players, but if I find a good parry king to fight with it's really risky and I have to play safe.

I was wondering if some buffing and occasional lightning could make the difference when fighting from a distance since it's really stamina exausting to run just to attack and since this is a vertical sword against rolling is a no-go.

I've seen also players who use avelyn crossbow on their left hand to compensate the short range of their melee weapon so maybe that's something worthy considering when pvp-ing.

Or I could tank people like I'm already doing sometimes but with a larger stamina and health pool

[Ferrarius_Christi]

And yeah, to answer to Some Dude, I don't have those things but I don't really struggle against bosses, the only one I still need help with is Nameless King.
I'm asking just for PVP purposes

[Zerg]

Spiked Mace is the best stength weap in the game, or Yhorms if you are really adept at using it, but the vertical swing can be unforgiving to new players that can't roll catch. UGS's are pretty trash in this game tbh. You def. want stam softcap with strength setup and make sure you're calculating 2h'ing when going for strength cap. I wouldn't add faith at all or your build is going to lose its identity.

[Ferrarius_Christi]

Then I think the majority of you just just told me that I need more strenght

I'll go to the gym then, make my char develops some abs