White sign soapstone doesn't work anymore (SOLVED)

[Jedster]

I just reach the bonfire in Rosaria bed chamber, than I wanted to explore catacombs some more...
It gets tough in lower levels so i ask my friend to join me. We have been playing together many times before with no problem, but now we can't see White sign on the ground no mather where we place it, we both have ember and the same password.
We thought, maby its some conection problem, so we tried to place Red sign soapstone.
That works fine, we can fight eachother but we can't help eachother... Can someone tell me why?
We are both lvl 53, can it be that we joined the Rosaria's fingers covenant? We tried to use diferent covenant and no covenant and still we couldn't summon eachother as white phantom.
please help if you can, thx.

[Lydia Scott]

Have you killed the boss there?

[Jedster]

where? in catedral of the deep? yes, we defeated him with my friend and since than we can't join... :(

[76561198006416723]

Originally posted by JEDSTER:

where? in catedral of the deep? yes, we defeated him with my friend and since than we can't join... :(

you can't summon coop players if the boss is dead

[Jedster]

Damn, what the hell... that is nice...
So if I kill Deacons of the deep I can't do coop with that character ever till NG+?
Ok but why? is there some story behind this or what??

[76561198006416723]

Originally posted by JEDSTER:

Damn, what the hell... that is nice...
So if I kill Deacons of the deep I can't do coop with that character ever till NG+?
Ok but why? is there some story behind this or what??

you can be summoned for coop, but you can't summon other coop players

neh, just some design decision.

[Jedster]

Originally posted by sajtt:

Originally posted by JEDSTER:

Damn, what the hell... that is nice...
So if I kill Deacons of the deep I can't do coop with that character ever till NG+?
Ok but why? is there some story behind this or what??

you can be summoned for coop, but you can't summon other coop players

neh, just some design decision.

Shame I didn't know that before we both killed him :D
Also shame we will need to start new character to play coop with my friend.
Thanks for info tho, we were completly clueless why we cant join...
Pretty poor decision imo :/

[76561198006416723]

Originally posted by JEDSTER:

Originally posted by sajtt:

you can be summoned for coop, but you can't summon other coop players

neh, just some design decision.

Shame I didn't know that before we both killed him :D
Also shame we will need to start new character to play coop with my friend.
Thanks for info tho, we were completly clueless why we cant join...
Pretty poor decision imo :/

well you can play coop with your friend in other areas, i guess

[Jedster]

Hmmm you mean, if we both have defeated boss of location we can't join in that area?
Well that may be, cos we have tried it only in caterdral of the deep area, Swamp area, and catacombs whre we defeated High lord Wolnir and than we were trying to join so we can go kill Old Deamon King...
We will try again in Irithyll of Boreal Walley...
Thanx guys

[76561198006416723]

basically, you can coop summon only in areas of your world where the boss is alive. so you can summon your friend where you have living bosses, same for your friend summoning you where his bosses are alive

[veelqnexus]

Ooooor your friend (or you) can use red sign as a mound maker (it will be purple on the ground) use a seed of a giant tree and you get kinda coop too. Be careful with friendly fire tho.

[Jedster]

Originally posted by sajtt:

basically, you can coop summon only in areas of your world where the boss is alive. so you can summon your friend where you have living bosses, same for your friend summoning you where his bosses are alive

Yea, it kinda make sense now :)
Thank you all guys, you were very helpfull :)