Unfindable Patches.

[moondynemc]

Okay, so I've been tearing my hair out trying to find this sucker.

I've helped Seigbro take down the fire demon, found him in the well outside of the Cathedral, exhausted his dialogue, opened the blue double doors near the altar, and Patches still refuses to appear.

I hadn't found Rosaria's bonfire at that point, but since he wasn't appearing there OR at Firelink I discovered the bonfire to try and force him to appear at Firelink to no avail. Going up and down the Shrine lift does nothing.

At this point I've killed all bosses up to Yhorm (haven't yet killed Yhorm himself), and Patches still refuses to show at any location, barring me from advancing Seigbro's questline. It's probably worth mentioning that I sent Greirat off to loot Anor Londo before I even started looking for Patches/Seigbro, he never returned, but his ashes weren't in the described location either.

Anyone got any ideas what I'm missing?

[The Double-G_Wiggler]

U have killed the diacones?

[lpnlizard27]

if you never found him in the caatherdral then goto the tower out back of firelink shrine hub, he cant resist locking you in there. He has always appeared when i do this, from then on he can be aquired as a merchant like normal.

[moondynemc]

Yes I've killed the deacons, as I said I've killed ALL bosses up to Yhorm. Going up and down the Shrine lift does NOT trigger his appearance for me. He won't appear at the Cathedral, Rosaria's Bonfire OR Firelink.

[lpnlizard27]

its not the lift, go all the way up the tower and get the firekeeper soul

[The Double-G_Wiggler]

What did cornyx say?

[The Double-G_Wiggler]

Unbreakable Patches Information
Unbreakable Patches can be found within the Cathedral of the Deep disguised as Siegward of Catarina. His spawn trigger is to open the main doors, on the left of the boss room, reload the area and then return. You MUST do this before lighting the bonfire at Rosaria's Bed Chamber. He will trick you into entering the bridge which he will then lower down to the giants. If you meet him again on the other side of that bridge infront of Rosaria's chamber, he will apologize for tricking you, and if you refuse to forgive him you'll earn the prostration gesture and a rusted coin. He will then become a vendor in that spot until he moves to Firelink Shrine. Video Example of above

If you climb up onto the rafters at the very top of the Cathedral before he tricks you to cross the bridge, he will not show by the bridge. Only cross the rafters after you have been tricked. After dropping down, he will reappear in his normal attire by the lever that raises the bridge (across from where you first met him in the Catarina armor).
If Patches lowers you down to the giants in the Cathedral of the Deep, he will not show up to lock you into the Firelink Shrine tower until you talk to him again on the other side of the bridge in the Cathedral.
An alternative method of meeting him (if you first lighted rosaria bonfire, before opening the main gate) is to buy the Tower Key and access the lift above the Firelink Shrine. He will trap you here (after you open the main gate). After escaping his trap he becomes a merchant in the upper floor of Firelink Shrine. Chose to not forgive him for a Rusted Gold Coin and to learn the gesture Prostration. After reloading the area he will be squatting down. Talk to him to learn the Patches Squat gesture. Video Example of above



Patches Questline
Patches can have an important effect on the questlines of NPCs Siegward of Catarina and Greirat of the Undead Settlement.

He has Siegward's Armor after trapping Siegward, which is needed to save Siegward in the well outside the Cathedral of the Deep. Opening the Cathedral doors is not the trigger for Patches to have the armour, you need to actually reload the Cathedral area. You do not need to talk to Siegward in the well first.You can buy the armor from Patches or just kill him for it.
When Greirat leaves on his second scavenger mission Patches will refuse to sell you any items until you tell him where Greirat has gone. If you have not yet bought the Catarina armor off of him and tell him where Greirat has gone he will save him. After killing Pontiff Sulyvahn, Patches ceases to pester you for Greirat's location. If you have bought the armour off of him and given it to Siegward in the well, Siegward will instead rescue him.
After Greirat has left to scavenge in Lothric Castle, Patches will ask where he has gone. If you tell him, he will stop selling you items and will leave Firelink Shrine until you defeat a boss. He returns with a Hidden Blessing which he sells for 16,000 souls.


Notes:

If Siegward dies before or during the fire demon fight, Patches will not show up for the rest of the game cycle.
If you kill the Giant before being tricked by Patches, you will get additional dialog. Patches is irritated that you killed the Giant, shames you and curses a lot.
Patches has a number of triggers than cause him to appear in a given area.
He will appear in the Cathedral of the Deep after its front door is opened and you travel away and return to the area.
If the Deacons of the Deep are killed or you take the shortcut to Rosaria, Patches will disappear from the cathedral. He will next appear if you go up the bell tower in Firelink Shrine and locks you in.
Opening the front door of the Cathedral of the Deep and then going up the bell tower in Firelink Shrine will trigger Patches' event early.
If you meet him at neither the cathedral or the bell tower, he will appear as a merchant after you defeat the Abyss Watchers.
If you give Siegward his armor before you meet Patches if you kept it from a previous playthrough he will not spawn in the Cathedral and will spawn in the tower in Firelink Shrine.
If you can't find Patches at all, save Siegward and then talk to Siegward inside the well outside the Cleansing Chapel bonfire. This triggers Patches story to continue.
If you have missed Patches triggers by going to far and can't get him to show up in Cathedral of the Deep, you can go back to Firelink and trigger him there...When he shows up as a merchant in Firelink you can buy the Catarina Armor from him there to continue Siegward's quest line in the Chapel.
His dialogue at Cathedral of the Deep and the bell tower at Firelink Shrine varies based on your character's gender.
If you talk to Patches in the Cathedral and then proceed to the ceiling rafters to the drop off point near Rosaria, the event will no longer occur upon crossing the narrow pathway,and he will not be present till the Firelink event.
Attacking Greirat will aggro Patches.
If you tell Patches where Greirat has gone after you send him to Lothric Castle, after defeating every boss in the game, you will have no way of getting Patches to return to Firelink. However, if you have The Ringed City DLC installed, you can reinstate Judicator Argo to reset Halflight, Spear of the Church boss fight.


Drops
Souls: NG (2000), NG+ (3000), NG++ (3301), NG+3 (??), NG+6 (??), NG+9 (??)
Weapons: Winged Spear, Pierce Shield
Armor: Catarina Helm, Catarina Armor, Catarina Gauntlets, Catarina Leggings
Other: Horsehoof Ring & Patches' ashes