How to git gud at beating Nameless King.

[nxmt]

[EDIT 30/10] DID IT BOYOS! 50 VIG / 30 END / 40 DEX with +10 Sharp Sellsword.

Jebus jebus. I still can't beat him. Couldn't beat him with a pure STR build wielding a great mace. Couldn't beat him with a Pyro build wielding top tier pyros and a chaos longsword.

And now with my latest pure DEX wielding blood grave twinblades I'm still struggling.

The first phase fire AOE is bullshot. It's always a 50/50 survival rate because besides rolling around you're battling with the camera.

I have made it to the 2nd phase at least but it's gettng a little hard to adjust to the slight delay in his swings forcing you to roll almost a half or second later than usual and that always catches me off guard.

Anyone got mad skills and tips would like to share. I'm tempted to even respec to a cheese build just to get it over and done with.

Gear:
Hunters Ring
Carthus Milkring
Ring of Favor
Chloranthy Ring

Armor:
Sunless

Weapon:
Bleed Warden Twinblades +10 (I do have a sharp +10 sellsword twinblades as backup)

Stats:
VIG: 30
END: 30
VIT: 20
DEX: 40 (48 with rings)
LUCK: 30

[Evilcheesewheel]

I got good at fighting Nameless King by putting my sign down and getting summned for him dozens of times.

[juicy]

Roll spam and spamming r1 is how you git gud in this game.

[Yallus]

The reason you may be "battling with the camera" is that you're using lock-on. Not locking on makes Phase 1 ten times more tolerable. Once you can reach Phase 2 more reliably, you can focus on his swing timing without frustration.

[Strega]

make your name nameless

[Washing Machine]

Don't mash rolls. Don't be greedy with your hits. That's about it.

It's the same as Logarius in BB, the whole gimmick is that he delays his followups to catch your rolls if you mash rolls when you do get hit. Kinda troll move by the devs actually, since Souls games have long since taught the player to roll if you get hit so you won't keep getting combo'd, then suddenly a boss turns this against you.

[de.lorca]

dont panic roll i guess at least that is what is giving me problems he has moves désigned to roll catch you if you dont pay attention to which attack he is doing and roll to early as a result

Originally posted by Yallus:

The reason you may be "battling with the camera" is that you're using lock-on. Not locking on makes Phase 1 ten times more tolerable. Once you can reach Phase 2 more reliably, you can focus on his swing timing without frustration.

no if you have caméra problems you are doing something wrong just like with midir

[nxmt]

Originally posted by Yallus:

The reason you may be "battling with the camera" is that you're using lock-on. Not locking on makes Phase 1 ten times more tolerable. Once you can reach Phase 2 more reliably, you can focus on his swing timing without frustration.

That's true. I still struggle with avoiding the fire AOE though. I can never reliably get a good enough view to see what his doing. Sometimes the dragon elevates so that Nameless can do one of his melee strikes which is easy enough to dodge and by the time my brain realises what's going on...

Originally posted by Washing Machine:

Don't mash rolls. Don't be greedy with your hits. That's about it.

It's the same as Logarius in BB, the whole gimmick is that he delays his followups to catch your rolls if you mash rolls when you do get hit. Kinda troll move by the devs actually, since Souls games have long since taught the player to roll if you get hit so you won't keep getting combo'd, then suddenly a boss turns this against you.

Originally posted by seigneur.de.lorca:

dont panic roll i guess at least that is what is giving me problems he has moves désigned to roll catch you if you dont pay attention to which attack he is doing and roll to early as a result

I spent a boat load of hours trying to platinum Bloodborne. When I dived back into Souls, I actually had to readjust my roll timing again because to me it feels like Bloodborne you needed to dodge JUST at the right moment and maybe I'm wrong but the iframes seems alot more generous. Nameless would have been a perfect BB boss since his timing matches the dodge. I wonder if equipping the Carthus Bloodring would help?

Originally posted by Spooki:

Roll spam and spamming r1 is how you git gud in this game.

If by roll spam you mean "panic because you misjudged a timing and hammered roll" then yes.

[Yallus]

If you unlock the camera, use manual camera to identify which attack he's doing, and then it's a matter of learning when *exactly* he shoots the lightning, so you can dodge. Same with his Phase 2 lightning move. NK is one of the fights people struggle with the most, so don't worry if you're picking up the fight slowly.

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by EvilCheeseWheel:

I got good at fighting Nameless King by putting my sign down and getting summned for him dozens of times.

Same here, eventually you just get it

[Jeremy]

Nameless has resistance to fire, twinblades(the wardens as well) dont work against him due to his scale armor, I recomend a longsword with dex scaling or lightning or whatever, with a lightning resin.

As for the timings.... it will only take practice that is all you can do

Also dont use a slow weopon

[Zaldun]

Originally posted by Jeromeperson:

Nameless has resistance to fire, twinblades(the wardens as well) dont work against him due to his scale armor, I recomend a longsword with dex scaling or lightning or whatever, with a lightning resin.

As for the timings.... it will only take practice that is all you can do

Also dont use a slow weopon

Wasn't it the dragon itself that was resistant to fire and the nameless king beeing weak to fire/dark damage?

[Zaldun]

Originally posted by seigneur.de.lorca:

dont panic roll i guess at least that is what is giving me problems he has moves désigned to roll catch you if you dont pay attention to which attack he is doing and roll to early as a result

Originally posted by Yallus:

The reason you may be "battling with the camera" is that you're using lock-on. Not locking on makes Phase 1 ten times more tolerable. Once you can reach Phase 2 more reliably, you can focus on his swing timing without frustration.

no if you have caméra problems you are doing something wrong just like with midir

I've defeated him twice so far and i've rarely had problems with the camera. (Only really had trouble with it because i walked under the dragons head by accident and turned my back on him.)

[Frowny]

Thrall Axe. Thrall Axe all the way. Decent damage with the best weapon art of the game, the bloodborne quick step, which is quicker to perfom and easier to chain together then rolling, making dodging enemy combos not only really easy, but also very stylish!

[Earthfire]

Originally posted by Aquila:

Thrall Axe. Thrall Axe all the way. Decent damage with the best weapon art of the game, the bloodborne quick step, which is quicker to perfom and easier to chain together then rolling, making dodging enemy combos not only really easy, but also very stylish!

^^Yes^^

Refined Thrall axe with gold pine resin and the Dragonslayer's greatshield.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Zaldun:

Originally posted by Jeromeperson:

Nameless has resistance to fire, twinblades(the wardens as well) dont work against him due to his scale armor, I recomend a longsword with dex scaling or lightning or whatever, with a lightning resin.

As for the timings.... it will only take practice that is all you can do

Also dont use a slow weopon

Wasn't it the dragon itself that was resistant to fire and the nameless king beeing weak to fire/dark damage?

Dragon is resistant to fire and hyper weak to lightning (Dragonslayer Axe with Golden Pine Resin, for instance, can drop phase 1 in like 15-20 seconds).

Phase 2 do not use lightning at all. Fire or Dark as you said. Bleed can work and Dory's Gnawing at the right distance works very well against Nameless. If you maintain the correct distance away from him he tends to mostly walk slowly towards you. Yellow Bug Pellet/Lightning Stoneplate Ring can help a lot here to prevent some of his more powerful attacks from being brutal. If one really wants to cheese him they can avoid attacking at all except when he does his air dive and dashing attacks since you are most prone to be hit by his normal 2-3 swing combo.

For phase 1 do not go past the back of his head or halfway past neck because he will attempt to use the flying fire breath attack, which he virtually never does if you don't go to far past said point. Seems intended to punish people turtling under boss. Don't lock on except when the head is low (or onto nameless when dodging rather then dragon head) and when he is flying to throw thunder bolt (you can lock on while he is airborn and simply run to your right, don't roll, and the thunder bolt will always miss).