Can someone explain to me the dark souls lore real quick lol

[TywinLannister64]

I just want a quick run of whats happening in DS3.
Iv never played any of the dark souls games before.

Just the basic information about the lore, ill figure out the rest by self.

PS: what is the best way to learn about the games lore ingame

[Ceistebi]

You are an ashen one, unfit even to be ember. Essentially, you're like last, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ choice to link the flame and keep the age of fire going. The other lords of cinder from the past were raised, but they all refused to link it. Your main goal is to kill them, offer their ashes/souls to the shrine so that you can go link the flame. Gonna have a lot of different people trying to influence you to go other ways, and that's why there are 4 different endings to it.

[TywinLannister64]

Hoooo really , didnt know there was multiple endings sweet!

where can I get information about the bosses . and why does the fire need to keep going ,
what will happen if it stops

[TywinLannister64]

and who are these other knights and warriors that i keep encountering

[icoN]

You can get information about the bosses on the wiki. The human sized knights in the red armour are knights of the kingdom of Lothric. The blue knights in the fat armor are the winged knights. They are the warriors associated with the angelic faith and Gertrude one of the queens daughters.

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by TywinLannister64:

why does the fire need to keep going ,
what will happen if it stops

That's the question. No one really knows.

To be honest it seems like kindling the first flame only benefits Gwyn and those whose power relies upon the light soul.

Humans (as descendants of the pygmy who found the dark soul) might actually benefit from the flame going out and an age of dark being ushered in...

If you really want to understand the story of Dark Souls then you need to play Dark Souls 1 too. Explore, talk to all NPCs regularly throughout the game and read item descriptions. That's where you'll find most of the information about the world.

[gackie]

https://youtu.be/M9x_koRZ2bA

[Nitaire]

The world has already died and most of its inhabitants, those who are clinging to humanity are undead. If you'd let the flame die out like in dark souls 1, you would essentially be letting what Manus was take over the world.
Let me link the dark ending to Kaathe, the citizens of Oolacile (DLC, the past) was tricked and they upturned Manus' grave, dark came about and threatened to swallow the land, fast forward to you completing the DLC in dark souls 1 and present time (main game) everything is fine, fire is linked and all is well. You can still encounter Kaathe and he makes it a point to appear from the abyss, he wants the flame to be extinguished but the then chosen undead is the only 1 who can allow it to happen, you're basically a lord of darkness in Kaathe's eyes and whether or not you are still his pawn after or what happens from then is unknown, only that the flame meant the end for the lords who kept linking it.

In essence the first flame enslaved undead, it offered respite in exchange for their literal humanity (ability to actually be human). You can read the dark souls 1 lore in detail for reference but you offer humanity in exchange for more estus, the bonfires spread across the land are all that remain and with the knowledge that the last surviving lord, in his desperation tried to forcefully link the flame using his Light Soul (lord soul) within himself. He succeeds and the result from my opinion and understanding is that Lord Gwyn is now hollow, his Light Soul before this point prolonged his body and granted him the power of flame and lightning, along with seemingly everlasting life. Bear in mind for the events I am describing Gwyn basically sacrifices roughly half of the Light Soul and that alone is supposed to be enough to keep the flame burning for (by the wiki) about a thousand years, the consequences of his actions are that the Light Soul's absence causes him to hollow to continue the age of fire.

Couple all this with dark souls 3 and basically I gather the current lords had at some point knowledge of the history and they willingly walked away from their duty, which to me suggests they want the age of dark and are doing what they can to bring it (short of killing each other there's no quicker way).

Take all this as an opinon and you can add in and draw your own conclusions, I haven't delved too deep into dark souls 3 lore as I haven't gone through lore and wiki on it yet but I might update this at a (much) later point if you're still interested in my 2 cents.

[Mrrshan68]

Dark souls lore is very very thin on the ground.
They tend to try more for atmposhere rather than actual sensical lore.
I wouldnt worry too much about it, the "lore" such as it is falls apart the second you really start to look at it.
Dark souls is many things but story rich is not one of them.

[gackie]

Originally posted by Mrrshan68:

Dark souls lore is very very thin on the ground.
They tend to try more for atmposhere rather than actual sensical lore.
I wouldnt worry too much about it, the "lore" such as it is falls apart the second you really start to look at it.
Dark souls is many things but story rich is not one of them.

Howso?

[Mrrshan68]

seriously?

You ever read a book or experienced any kind of structured fleshed out story?
dont get me wrong the atmosphere in darksouls is great and all and i enjoy the little bits of fluff as much as anyone but a story they do not make.

I mean go watch the videos of people "explaining" the various lore points. Its like 10% reading item descriptions and 90% head canon.

Once again dont get me wrong the vids are amusing enough but if you are looking for a fleshed out coherant world darksouls will not give it to you.

[gackie]

Originally posted by Mrrshan68:

seriously?

You ever read a book or experienced any kind of structured fleshed out story?
dont get me wrong the atmosphere in darksouls is great and all and i enjoy the little bits of fluff as much as anyone but a story they do not make.

I mean go watch the videos of people "explaining" the various lore points. Its like 10% reading item descriptions and 90% head canon.

Once again dont get me wrong the vids are amusing enough but if you are looking for a fleshed out coherant world darksouls will not give it to you.

There's your problem. You're watching videos. Yes, I read books. My favorite series is The Legendarium. And what you're forgetting is that it is made by an eastern audience, and it does a fantatsic job of appealing to the western audience aswell. Atleast give some examples. Dark Souls doesn't go for the horrible RPG cliche of every spurging dialogue and story at you left right and centre, that's why the story is so non-linear.

[Mrrshan68]

err dude you linked a video to this guy when he asked about the lore...

As for the whole east/west thing thats total rubbish. Its just two different types of storytelling that both cultures use extensively.
One is a proper story thats fleshed out and sensical, you can try and poke holes in it but it will stand up to scrutiny and answer the obvious questions.
The other is the oft used in video games alternative of making everything mysterious and non linear so they dont have to justify a damn thing and can put whatever cool thing they want in the game.

Its super obvious when a person is telling a proper story and when they are just setting a scene for people to make up their own head canon.
Darksouls is very much in head canon territory.

[AlmightyDunkle]

Originally posted by Hat Skeleton!:

https://youtu.be/M9x_koRZ2bA

Deja vu...

[gackie]

Originally posted by Mrrshan68:

err dude you linked a video to this guy when he asked about the lore...

As for the whole east/west thing thats total rubbish. Its just two different types of storytelling that both cultures use extensively.
One is a proper story thats fleshed out and sensical, you can try and poke holes in it but it will stand up to scrutiny and answer the obvious questions.
The other is the oft used in video games alternative of making everything mysterious and non linear so they dont have to justify a damn thing and can put whatever cool thing they want in the game.

Its super obvious when a person is telling a proper story and when they are just setting a scene for people to make up their own head canon.
Darksouls is very much in head canon territory.

No, I linked OP to a comical video that hardly explains the story what so ever, and is a parody. Again, without examples of these holes in the story, there isn't much to what you are saying. Considering the story was made in under a year and is still very unique, I can't see where you're coming from without examples.