Would this PC be good for Dark Souls III?

[Turin]

I've been waiting to buy Dark Souls III for a long time but my current old laptop I play on is nowhere near the system requirements (only 3GB RAM with AMD Radeon HD 7600).
I've found some PC's that look decent to me and have been asking how well each one will run some of my favorite games. So, I was also wondering how well they'd run Dark Souls III?

(People have always suggested saving up parts and building one on my own, but I really don't have that kind of time right now, but it is something I will do in the future. Right now I just need something decent to hold me down until then).

1. The first one I've been looking at is this one:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/23745948?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227017545193&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40300095872&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=78267303272&veh=sem

It has 8GB of RAM and graphics card NVIDIA GeForce GT 730.

2. But then as I saved up more money I ended up having enough for this one, which I think seems even better:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Gamer-Series-GUA4000W-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-Vishera-FX-8320-Processor-16GB-Memory-2TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-10-Home-Monitor-Not-Include/51578207?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227040102673&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=82010089609&wl4=pla-181278080449&wl5=9011482&wl6=&wl7=9011564&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=51578207&wl13=&veh=sem

It has 16GB of RAM and AMD Radeon R7 250 Graphics with 2GB of dedicated graphics memory.

What kind of framerate would I most likely be looking at with Dark Souls 3, on max and lowest settings, with the first one?
What about the second one?

Would either of them be able to have a decent framerate to remain online?

Which one do you think is better for PC gaming in general? Which one has the better graphics card?

[stage]

No. Let me try to explain this simple. The 2 Walmart PC's listed are good for office/internet.

If you want a "gaming" pc, see the provided links in my post above, and get a friend that is PC enthusiast and drag him to a PC shop, as for those money you can build a good gaming PC. :)

[Viper]

Originally posted by Toten:

Originally posted by Viper:

When looking at the numbers used on graphics cards this is how you can generally tell how good they are. The first number is the generation or now 2 numbers on NVidia. That basically means what year it was made. The Current NVidia cards are 10. The current AMD I believe are 4.

The last 2 numbers are level of performance. Nvidia 40 and below- low level ( meant for business apps not games..

50-60....mid level
70- 80..hign level cards.

AMD I am not as familiar with but usually 50 or lower is bad I believe. 60 is mid level and 70 is high performance cards.

Which ones are the "first number"? Like, for the second one, it's AMD R7 250. That means it's 25? Which is bad?
And the first one is, Nvidia 730, which means it's 73? Which is good?

Or am I missing something?

Either way they both pass the absolute minimum for DS3, right?

I am talking about the 250. My knowledge of AMD is not as good R7 would probalby be the generatiuon. Maybe some one else can give you a better idea of how AMD numbering works.

[Turin]

I did find these which show R7 250 play and it doesn't look too bad by my standards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2GCUKbycUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYWR9r3trNU

[stage]

They play on very low resoultion with avarge frame of ~20-25 something, with low dips below 15. You do not really want this in a boss fight, and is probably a lot worse, with many NPC on screen.

For the same money in Walmart, you are gertting a much better PC with up-to date components elsewhere.

Basicly here is Ford for 500$ that can drive on the road, and not a BMW for 500$ on other place, that is going to drive on the road much better. ;) It is your choice.

[Eightball]

Nvidia 730 is terrible. 7 is the series (old series now), 30 is the power (30 is low, 80 is highest).

For $500 you can get a pretty good gaming PC. Just do not ever buy it from Walmart, or PC World, or Maplin, or any of those terrible chains. All overpriced, for old garbage, no good for games.

That DOES NOT mean you have to build it yourself. Try ebay, amazon, overclockers.co.uk ((recommended im sure they ship other places too)). Get a few links from those locations and ask again with those which is better. I'd at least compare the prices of ready made gaming rigs under your price from overclockers to anything else you see as a base line.

[Kleerex]

Originally posted by stage:

Neither. Dony buy pre-build PC's (usually they have old components and high prices), and specially not from big companies that do not deal excusevely with computers. Am not from USA but Walmart seem that they sell everything possible...

In the above links, both card are not even mid range, and both systems have not that efficent amd cpu's.

This! Don't buy pre-built PCs. If you don't know how to assemble various custom-selected parts, I'm sure there is a vendor that would do that for you for additional fee. I'd suggest an i5 (6500 or better), at least an RX470, and at least 8 GB of DDR4 RAM (16 GB if possible). That setup would run DS3 at constant 60fps.

You're not getting a new PC just for this game that isn't even very demanding. You will want to be able to play games 2 years from now as well, so choose carefully. Neither of the options you listed are satisfying in that regard.

[Turin]

Originally posted by Reloaded:

Originally posted by stage:

Neither. Dony buy pre-build PC's (usually they have old components and high prices), and specially not from big companies that do not deal excusevely with computers. Am not from USA but Walmart seem that they sell everything possible...

In the above links, both card are not even mid range, and both systems have not that efficent amd cpu's.

This! Don't buy pre-built PCs. If you don't know how to assemble various custom-selected parts, I'm sure there is a vendor that would do that for you for additional fee. I'd suggest an i5 (6500 or better), at least an RX470, and at least 8 GB of DDR4 RAM (16 GB if possible). That setup would run DS3 at constant 60fps.

You're not getting a new PC just for this game that isn't even very demanding. You will want to be able to play games 2 years from now as well, so choose carefully. Neither of the options you listed are satisfying in that regard.

I most likely won't be getting brand new games once I get one of them. The main reason I wish to purchase one is to hold me down until I have the time to build a PC.
Thing is, I can't do that at the moment because of my laptop.
3 GB ram with AMD HD 7600 just doesn't cut it... at all, really.

Not to mention my laptop will shut down randomly when playing a game, and upon rebooting display a message saying "This device has heated to 90 degrees and has performed a thermal shutdown to prevent overheating".

[¨°º✪GødzBlazƸ✪º°¨]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

You don't want an AMD CPU for gaming.

For Nvidia GPUs, anything lower than the 050, or 0050 models aren't intended for gaming. You definitely don't want a GTX 750 when you're buying a "new" PC. The latest Nvidia cards are the 10xx series. And the 10 series was a 2 generation leap over the 9 series, which is better than the 7 series. So you'd be buying a "new" PC with a GPU that's 4 generations old.

For AMD GPUs, anything lower than the RX X70 model, etc R9 270, 370, 470 isn't intended for gaming.

So for GPUs, I'd say Nvidia 1050 at the very minimum, or RX 470/480 for AMD.

RX 470 4GB isn't intended for gaming ?? so what i bought a card only good for watching video on youtube? lmao..

steady 60 fps EVERYTHING on Max.. only FPS drop i had its in boreal valley and the area before the older demon in the catacomb

[Turin]

Originally posted by ¨°º✪Godzblaze✪º°¨:

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

You don't want an AMD CPU for gaming.

For Nvidia GPUs, anything lower than the 050, or 0050 models aren't intended for gaming. You definitely don't want a GTX 750 when you're buying a "new" PC. The latest Nvidia cards are the 10xx series. And the 10 series was a 2 generation leap over the 9 series, which is better than the 7 series. So you'd be buying a "new" PC with a GPU that's 4 generations old.

For AMD GPUs, anything lower than the RX X70 model, etc R9 270, 370, 470 isn't intended for gaming.

So for GPUs, I'd say Nvidia 1050 at the very minimum, or RX 470/480 for AMD.

RX 470 4GB isn't intended for gaming ?? so what i bought a card only good for watching video on youtube? lmao..

steady 60 fps EVERYTHING on Max.. only FPS drop i had its in boreal valley and the area before the older demon in the catacomb

And how would that compare to the card with the second PC?

[¨°º✪GødzBlazƸ✪º°¨]

Originally posted by Toten:

Originally posted by ¨°º✪Godzblaze✪º°¨:

RX 470 4GB isn't intended for gaming ?? so what i bought a card only good for watching video on youtube? lmao..

steady 60 fps EVERYTHING on Max.. only FPS drop i had its in boreal valley and the area before the older demon in the catacomb

And how would that compare to the card with the second PC?

i cant tell sorry mate.. ask google to compare them

[Turin]

Originally posted by ¨°º✪Godzblaze✪º°¨:

Originally posted by Toten:

And how would that compare to the card with the second PC?

i cant tell sorry mate.. ask google to compare them

It says yours is 7.7 / 10 while a generic radeon r7 250 is 6.7.

[Viper]

A good place to get an idea of GPU performance is Passmark. They make a benchmarking program and 1000s of people test there hardware and submit scores to them and they are averaged.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

The score of a GTX 750 ti for example is roughly 3700. Anything below that is below minimum recommended for the game.

The scores of the GPUs you posted are 930 ( GT 730) and 1400 (R7 250 ) which are scores for business GPUs. Roughly 1/3 and 1/4 of the perfomance.

To give you an idea of how a top end GPU scales to that. The score for a GTX 1080 is about 12,000. Or about 3 times the perfromace of a GTX 750 ti.

[Turin]

Originally posted by Viper:

A good place to get an idea of GPU performance is Passmark. They make a benchmarking program and 1000s of people test there hardware and submit scores to them and they are averaged.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

The score of a GTX 750 ti for example is roughly 3700. Anything below that is below minimum recommended for the game.

The scores of the GPUs you posted are 930 ( GT 730) and 1400 (R7 250 ) which are scores for business GPUs. Roughly 1/3 and 1/4 of the perfomance.

To give you an ide ao fhow a top end GPU scales ot that. The Score for a GTX 1080 is about 12,000

Yeah, I've been going on there a little bit and also cpuboss.com.
I've seen several videos of around 20 - 45 FPS on Dark Souls 3 with graphics cards slightly better than the R7 250 (the one in the second comp). So the fx 8350 seems to pass the minimum requirements.

[UnnamedBeast]

To be honest, both of them suck and you could get much more value out of your money than those prebuild systems, i haven't read earlier comments but i'm guessing they are saying the same as i am, also, never buy computers at walmart or other supermarket types

[Turin]

Originally posted by UnnamedBeast:

To be honest, both of them suck and you could get much more value out of your money than those prebuild systems, i haven't read earlier comments but i'm guessing they are saying the same as i am, also, never buy computers at walmart or other supermarket types

Like I said, it's just something to keep me occupied til I have the time to build one. I can't do that as it is because my laptop can barely run games without shutting down to prevent overheating. It has AMD Radeon 7600 with 3GB of RAM, and it doesn't even pass the minimum requirements on 99% of the games I want (a good majority of said games aren't even new or recent).