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Krono (Banned) Jan 10, 2017 @ 10:33pm
Best weapon for each category
I just typed this out in a comment for another post, so I figured I'd make my own post about it. These are, in my opinion, the "best" (most "viable" in PvP) weapons from each category. Let me know if you agree or disagree, and maybe what your favorite weapons are.


Daggers:
Brigand Twindaggers are probably the best, you can get a lot of damage out if you buff them. The weapon art is handy too. Alternatively, the Dagger is good for riposting at high levels and the Mailbreaker is good for riposting at lower levels (raw infuse)

Straight swords:
Probably Valorheart, it's basically a straight sword with hyper armor. Lothric's holy sword can also be nice since it has the poke on its weapon arts, and gotthards are still good. Raw Astora sword is the best for low levels

Greatswords:
Hollowslayer or Onyx Blade, both are really good. I personally like the Hollowslayer more, but they're probably about equal as far as how good they are. Onyx blade is a bit longer, but the Hollowslayer doesn't require a buff for maximum damage

Ultra Greatswords:
My personal favorite is the Profaned Greatsword, but the Lothric Knight Greatsword can probably dish out a bit more damage and is otherwise very similar.

Curved swords:
Carthus curved sword still holds the crown, the Follower sabre is also very good though.

Curved Greatsword:
Bleh. I like the Old Wolf curved sword just because of the fashion, I don't really like or use these.

Katanas:
Onikiri and Ubadachi because of the weapon art into l1 bleed insta-kill combo, the washing pole is nice as well.

Thrusting swords:
Crow quills, they don't have quite as much range as the estoc but they have a critical damage modifier so they're much better for riposting than any other rapier. The weapon art can poke, but it's more useful for tricking people into the followup lung attack, people don't expect it and a lot of people don't know it exists. Estoc makes a close second

Axes:
Dragonslayer axe is good both at higher levels (with 60 faith and Sunlight blade, I can hit as hard with a raw Dragonslayer axe as a Dragonslayer Greataxe). It's also one of the twink weapons at low levels when infused with raw. Millwood battleaxe comes second, it's literally just a battleaxe with significantly more damage

Greataxe:
A bit of a tough one, but probably Yhorm's great machete. Doesn't have the highest damage out of the class, but its long range combined with its hyper armor and damage make it very good.

Hammers:
The warpick is pretty scary since the buff, if you stack poise you can get some nasty damage because it works with the Leo ring for counter hits.

Greathammers:
The Great Club has some good range, damage, and its R2 attack is excellent for roll-catching people. The pickaxe is also good, it can deal chip damage through shields and benefits from the leo ring, so you can use it the same way as the warpick.

Fists/claws:
*pukes in mouth*
If we're talking specifically about pvp viability, these aren't great except as an off-hand parrying tool. You can do a cheesey combo with the caestus if you can find anybody stupid enough to let you hit them, or buff the crow talons and use the weapon art to cheese dumb people, but..... yeah......

Spears:
Probably the Gargoyle flame spear. It has good range, good damage, good speed, and its weapon art can be very useful when used correctly. Basically just outclasses every other spear despite its split damage

Halberds:
I would have said the Black Knight Glaive before, but since its insta-kill combo weapon art got removed I'd put Gundyr's halberd a little bit ahead, despite having a bit less damage.

Reapers:
Friede's Greatscythe. It has good range, good speed, good damage, and a weapon art that is useful if used properly. Basically everything the gargoyle spear has, but it's better against multiple opponents because of its wide sweeping R1 attacks. My personal favorite weapon in the game.

Whips:
Not too bad actually, the Witch's locks are good for pyromancers and the Rose of Ariandel is surprisingly good, it's basically a club with much better range. Can't go wrong with a gimp man cosplay.

Bows:
For pvp, the composite bow is good because it has decent damage (for bows) and is very fast.

Greatbows:
The millwood greatbow is really just better than the others. Has more damage

Crossbows:
The arbalest and Avelyn are close. The avelyn will deal a bit more damage, but at the cost of 3x the amount of ammo consumption. The arbalest is also a bit more unexpected, so I find I catch more people offguard with it. Avelyn is better for chasing down somebody that's trying to get away to heal with 1 hp left though, just aim exploding blots at the floor and you're guaranteed to catch their roll.

Staves:
I don't really use sorceries, but I think the Court Sorcerer's is the best? Maybe?

Flames/talismans/chimes:
For pvp, the canvas talisman is best for miracles. It has the most hyper armor on the weapon art, so it's better for trading hits with a Sunlight Spear or something. And let's be honest, that's the only way you're going to hit a good player. For pyromancies the regular flame and parting flame are better at different jobs, so they're basically equal.
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Zach Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:34pm 
For UGS class I would go with BKGS seems better than the ones you listed.
Krono (Banned) Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by Zach:
For UGS class I would go with BKGS seems better than the ones you listed.
I kinda forgot about that one to be honest, it would probably be better against a ingle target though whereas the ones I named are better against multiple opponents. Good suggestion though
Skeleton Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:49pm 
Originally posted by Krono | Sin:
Daggers:
Brigand Twindaggers are probably the best, you can get a lot of damage out if you buff them. The weapon art is handy too. Alternatively, the Dagger is good for riposting at high levels and the Mailbreaker is good for riposting at lower levels (raw infuse)
The Twindaggers have horrible range on the L1s, enemies need to pretty much be on top of you in order to be hit. All that damage means nothing if it can't be applied.

I'd nominate Corvian Greatknife and Bandit Knife for best PvP daggers. The former is essentially the Black Flamestone dagger from DS2; the basic dagger animation with the longer reach makes it extremely quick and easy to land hits with. The latter has Quickstep, innate and buffable bleed, and a good critical modifer, making it excellent all-around.
Originally posted by Krono | Sin:
Straight swords:
Probably Valorheart, it's basically a straight sword with hyper armor. Lothric's holy sword can also be nice since it has the poke on its weapon arts, and gotthards are still good. Raw Astora sword is the best for low levels
I'd make mention of the Lothric Knight Sword. Gets good scaling for most infusions, has 110% critical, and is the second-longest straight sword with a thrust-based moveset that synergises well with Leo Ring.
Originally posted by Krono | Sin:
Greatswords:
Hollowslayer or Onyx Blade, both are really good. I personally like the Hollowslayer more, but they're probably about equal as far as how good they are. Onyx blade is a bit longer, but the Hollowslayer doesn't require a buff for maximum damage
For raw damage, Onyx Blade wins and Greatsword of Judgment takes second; both are in the 700 AR range with the proper stats. Onyx Blade is longer, but Judgment has a projectile WA.
Originally posted by Krono | Sin:
Curved Greatsword:
Bleh. I like the Old Wolf curved sword just because of the fashion, I don't really like or use these.
Exile Greatsword has more reliable WA combos, Carthus Curved Greatsword has better potential damage-per-hit thanks to high infusion scaling. I'd pick one of these.
Last edited by Skeleton; Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:50pm
Zach Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:50pm 
BKGS can hit multiple people if you manage the uppercut/slam. Lothric GS is good I used this on a 40 str/30 faith build it was infused with a lightning gem and I used lightning blade spell on it. Would easily do 700+ hits it was ridiculous.

I still have a clip of me 2 hitting a guy with all my buffs and rings on.
Last edited by Zach; Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:52pm
Dark Knight Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:51pm 
In my case (Dex sorcerer) judgement GS is better than Onix or moonlight.
.Stream Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:55pm 
Twin Princes and Moonlight Greatsword are actually very good imo... PvP wise, the Twin princes have palpable damage, in exchange it has amazing utility. The WA has a flaming shieldbreaker that has amazing poise and it's hyperarmour starts the moment you initiate it ( Just like the lorian UGS WA. ), it also has a long range poke WA that does a decent amount of damage with just the light, but if you combine it with the actual weapon's thrust on a counter hit, 600+ damage is not uncommon... consider it's bad scaling and split damage, it actually does amazingly well.

Moonlight Greatsword just has high damage on sorcerer builds on top of bypassing some shield defenses... and since nobody really has much magic defense, it's even better.
Pyramid Bread Jan 10, 2017 @ 11:58pm 
Originally posted by Zach:
it was infused with a lightning gem and I used lightning blade spell on it.

There's something not right about this statement
Zach Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:01am 
Originally posted by decadence:
Originally posted by Zach:
it was infused with a lightning gem and I used lightning blade spell on it.

There's something not right about this statement
How so?
Pyramid Bread Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:03am 
You can't buff elementally-infused weapons
Lydia Scott Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:05am 
Originally posted by decadence:
You can't buff elementally-infused weapons
BUSTED.
Zach Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:06am 
Originally posted by decadence:
You can't buff elementally-infused weapons
Hmm weird I'm positive my sword was infused with a lightning gem. Of course this was also 4 months ago so don't remember 100%. It may have been refined IDK lol. All I remember was I used a lothric GS and used lightning blade.

I still have old clips of me using the build maybe I'll look through them and see what infusion I used.
Last edited by Zach; Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:07am
Pyramid Bread Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:09am 
If you could lightning blade an infused lothric knight gs... jeebus that would be nasty
Krono (Banned) Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:09am 
Originally posted by Skeleton:
The Twindaggers have horrible range on the L1s, enemies need to pretty much be on top of you in order to be hit. All that damage means nothing if it can't be applied.

I'd nominate Corvian Greatknife and Bandit Knife for best PvP daggers. The former is essentially the Black Flamestone dagger from DS2; the basic dagger animation with the longer reach makes it extremely quick and easy to land hits with. The latter has Quickstep, innate and buffable bleed, and a good critical modifer, making it excellent all-around.
♥♥♥♥ my life I completely forgot about the corvian knife. I don't agree with your bandit knife choice though, as it basically has the same problem, and solution, as the twindaggers. Namely, its poor range, which is compensated for by quickstep. I like using it for cheesey bleed builds, but any smart player will aim for one of those partial hits that doesn't deal damage in order to safely pop bleed.

Originally posted by Skeleton:
I'd make mention of the Lothric Knight Sword. Gets good scaling for most infusions, has 110% critical, and is the second-longest straight sword with a thrust-based moveset that synergises well with Leo Ring.
Yup it's pretty damned good too, I just think it's a bit lower on the list

Originally posted by Skeleton:
For raw damage, Onyx Blade wins and Greatsword of Judgment takes second; both are in the 700 AR range with the proper stats. Onyx Blade is longer, but Judgment has a projectile WA
Good to know, but I'd still put the Hollowslayer higher on the list than the Greatsword of Judgement because I feel the R2 is more reliable in pvp than the projectile attack. I'm also just a bit biased because its my favorite greatsword

Originally posted by Skeleton:
Exile Greatsword has more reliable WA combos, Carthus Curved Greatsword has better potential damage-per-hit thanks to high infusion scaling. I'd pick one of these.
Thank you, its good to have a proper opinion on these since I don't like or use them.

Originally posted by Zach:
BKGS can hit multiple people if you manage the uppercut/slam. Lothric GS is good I used this on a 40 str/30 faith build it was infused with a lightning gem and I used lightning blade spell on it. Would easily do 700+ hits it was ridiculous.

I still have a clip of me 2 hitting a guy with all my buffs and rings on.
Fair point there.

Originally posted by Zerberius:
Twin Princes and Moonlight Greatsword are actually very good imo... PvP wise, the Twin princes have palpable damage, in exchange it has amazing utility. The WA has a flaming shieldbreaker that has amazing poise and it's hyperarmour starts the moment you initiate it ( Just like the lorian UGS WA. ), it also has a long range poke WA that does a decent amount of damage with just the light, but if you combine it with the actual weapon's thrust on a counter hit, 600+ damage is not uncommon... consider it's bad scaling and split damage, it actually does amazingly well.

Moonlight Greatsword just has high damage on sorcerer builds on top of bypassing some shield defenses... and since nobody really has much magic defense, it's even better.
They're certainly good, I have them lower on the list mostly because they lack a thrusting attack, and thrusting attacks are really good

Originally posted by decadence:
Originally posted by Zach:
it was infused with a lightning gem and I used lightning blade spell on it.

There's something not right about this statement
Might've used the tumblebuff glitch
Zach Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:13am 
Nah I just checked my old footage it was refined. Guess I got it mixed up but hey it was a few months ago lol.
76561198357517520 (Banned) Jan 11, 2017 @ 12:31am 
Originally posted by Zach:
For UGS class I would go with BKGS seems better than the ones you listed.
I'd take Lothric over BKGS any day. It's better in 1v1 and in groups. Vertical movesets just aren't that great in this game, because of how strong rolling is. Horizontal is a lot easier to roll catch. And R2 charge poke is really powerful, not only for roll catching, but for just outranging most things.
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