chaos bed vestiges OP

[doge]

man they should really do something about those chaos bed vestiges in the arena!! the only thing you see right now is people spamming it way too hard all the time! i can't get into a 3v3 without there being 3 pyromancers there and it becomes a rollfest! there really is no way to counter it exept become a pyromancer yourself (and i refuse to do so) anyone any tips on how to counter it in 3v3?

[doge]

Originally posted by Gameo:

Maybe dont quote me half a second after I post, I deleted that as you can clearly see.

good boy!

[jay jay the dank planezinho]

Originally posted by Kawaii Fire Keeper:

Anything works once you get close enough. I prefer UG weapons in those situations as you have the reach and can stunlock them while they try to regen Stamina to spam roll. But it's like you said, fast weapons work great in that situation as well.

It's mostly to not give them time to react. With heavy weapons you have to be more careful with your timings because it gives more time for them to roll back, but if you do hit them with a heavy weapon, you probably managed to win the duel already.

[Skeleton]

Originally posted by doge:

Originally posted by TBreaker ރ:

It consumes A LOT of stamina, even more if the pyromancer is using the parting pyromancy flame. If the average pyromancer casts it for a second time without waiting 1 or 2 seconds, he won't be able to roll away from most attacks. If you want to "counter" it in a 3v3, always have a member of your team pressuring the pyro, so he isn't able to throw that huge fireball where the rest of the players are fighting.

yeah, but if there are 2 pyro, then i am screwed, right!! but i am gonna give it a shot, tnx for the advice man! appreciate it!

You aren't screwed. It sounds like you are going up against a team that might be coordinating. You just need to roll (apologies for the pun) with your own squad. Stay in communication. Make sure one keeps them occupied while you flank. Friends and I were in a similar situation a while back. I took their CBVs on my shield with Flash Sweat on me. While my buds sprinted to their flanks and jump attacked them to close the gap. The Pyros blew their Stamina on me. And thus could not roll away from my teammates attacks.

[doge]

Originally posted by jay jay the dank planezinho:

Originally posted by Kawaii Fire Keeper:

Anything works once you get close enough. I prefer UG weapons in those situations as you have the reach and can stunlock them while they try to regen Stamina to spam roll. But it's like you said, fast weapons work great in that situation as well.

It's mostly to not give them time to react. With heavy weapons you have to be more careful with your timings because it gives more time for them to roll back, but if you do hit them with a heavy weapon, you probably managed to win the duel already.

using the profaned GS atm, with corvian greatknife as back-up for those rollspammers, (and vow of silence) gonna see how that works

[doge]

Originally posted by Kawaii Fire Keeper:

Originally posted by doge:

yeah, but if there are 2 pyro, then i am screwed, right!! but i am gonna give it a shot, tnx for the advice man! appreciate it!

You aren't screwed. It sounds like you are going up against a team that might be coordinating. You just need to roll (apologies for the pun) with your own squad. Stay in communication. Make sure one keeps them occupied while you flank. Friends and I were in a similar situation a while back. I took their CBVs on my shield with Flash Sweat on me. While my buds sprinted to their flanks and jump attacked them to close the gap. The Pyros blew their Stamina on me. And thus could not roll away from my teammates attacks.

it's kinda difficult to coördinate your team, cause most ppl just rush in for the kill, gonna have to use those gestures then! ;) anyway, gonna try it out, tnx for you help!

[doge]

thanks for your help guys! i really appreciate it! (see, the dark souls community isn't all that bad!)

[AH-1 Cobra]

Personally, against spell spammers, I just pull out a thrall axe and aggressively rush them down with quickstepping. Most of them got low HP bars + rags, and die in a few hits even to a thrall axe. None of those pyromancy gimmicks work against quick stepping weapons.

[JoeBlack]

Originally posted by doge:

Originally posted by Kawaii Fire Keeper:

He's not whining. He's asking for tips.

yeah, i am not saying they shouldn't play like that (cause it is the most effective) i am just asking how to counter it

roll, wait they are out of fp, they are spammer.

[doge]

Originally posted by crimsonedge11:

Personally, against spell spammers, I just pull out a thrall axe and aggressively rush them down with quickstepping. Most of them got low HP bars + rags, and die in a few hits even to a thrall axe.

hmmmm, i could try to give that a shot too, tnx!

[doge]

Originally posted by 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔊𝔬𝔩𝔡𝔢𝔫 𝔎𝔫𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱:

Originally posted by doge:

yeah, i am not saying they shouldn't play like that (cause it is the most effective) i am just asking how to counter it

roll, wait they are out of fp, they are spammer.

yeah, but my team ussually doesn't think this way and gets killed in the process, they get another ashen and the game begins again...