Yoel of Londor is dead before I got dark sigil

[Von Poe VII]

I didn't 'draw out true strength' before he died. Is that questline now forever lost? I just wanna buy things from Yuria.

[Kaizen]

Gone till NG, next time, as soon as you get him in the shrine, go there, jump off the top ledge and die, talk to him, kill yourself a couple more times, repeat.

[lev]

he dies when you kill the abyss watchers

[silencer]

Yep. If he dies (meaning if you kill the Abyss Watchers) before getting all 5 sigils from him, the Usurper questline is over and Yuria will never appear.

He gives you the first sigil with no requisites, then gives the next at 2, 6, 12 and 15 Hollowing respectively. Hollowing is increased by how many sigils you have on you per death, so you need to die twice per tier except the last one, where a single death is enough. As suggested here running off a cliff in Firelink will do the trick, die 2 times, get another sigil, rinse, repeat.

Anyway yeah, if he is dead and you don't have the sigils, you lost that questline in this Journey.

[Hunubul]

Originally posted by Gameo:

Gone till NG, next time, as soon as you get him in the shrine, go there, jump off the top ledge and die, talk to him, kill yourself a couple more times, repeat.

I found that goind to undead settlement to jump off a cliff is faster than running around in firelink shrine.

[Von Poe VII]

Oh. Well damn. And there is no other way of getting a Ring of Untrue?

[lev]

Originally posted by Dez:

Oh. Well damn. And there is no other way of getting a Ring of Untrue?

ask someone

[Kaizen]

Originally posted by Ponion:

Originally posted by Gameo:

Gone till NG, next time, as soon as you get him in the shrine, go there, jump off the top ledge and die, talk to him, kill yourself a couple more times, repeat.

I found that goind to undead settlement to jump off a cliff is faster than running around in firelink shrine.

lol what are you smoking it takes a matter of seconds to jump from the top floor to the fire area and die

[Dutch Oven]

Eduardo