What rings you got bithc?

[RdRStar]

Just wondering how people are making room for the Prisoner's Chain. I'm assuming all that stamina, health, and endurance is worth a ring slot at SL 120. Guessing most melee builds will be running the same standout rings with just a little variation.

Right now I'm going with Prisoner Chain, Steel Protection, Havel, and Favor. Life Ring +3 may be worth it now that I've picked up some extra hps from the Chain. Chloranthy could be worth hanging onto with a more aggressive build.

Is everyone picking up the Chain now?

[Mr Ega]

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[Mr Ega]

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[devSin]

Doesn't steel protection do basically nothing while in PvP?

My impression is that the chain is mainly for lower level and caster builds, as it frees up utility slots that they can better use for damage. A kitted melee build with enough Vit for poise and 40 Vig probably won't gain much from a few extra points in Str/Dex.

[odinigh]

Originally posted by devSin:

Doesn't steel protection do basically nothing while in PvP?

10% DEF isn't nothing

[Hanki]

I guess I'll try out the chain as it seems now is worth wearing
My current set up is:
Havel's +3
Favor +3
Cloranthy +3
And the one that I change

I usually wear the one wich makes you look human, sometimes steel protection +3

But I guess I will change Havel for the chain and find a nice fashion souls wich it's under the 70% mark

[devSin]

Originally posted by odinigh:

10% DEF isn't nothing

I thought the base was something like 1 or 2%, and then an extra 1% for each level (so like 4 or 5% total at +3) against invaders?

[r0b]

I'm using Favor +3, Chloranty +3, Wolf's Ring +3 and Havel's +3

[RdRStar]

Originally posted by devSin:

Doesn't steel protection do basically nothing while in PvP?

My impression is that the chain is mainly for lower level and caster builds, as it frees up utility slots that they can better use for damage. A kitted melee build with enough Vit for poise and 40 Vig probably won't gain much from a few extra points in Str/Dex.

In PVP, I think 15% physical absorption on a high poise build that trades a lot is pretty significant. I also like that it makes my estus go further in PvE.

At SL 100, I'm running 35 VIG, 40 VIT, and only 26 END, so the extra stats definitely seem to be worth 3% reduced absorption. I wasn't sure if SL120 builds would benefit as much, but I figured stats could probably be juggled a bit to open up some new options / playstyles with the ring equipped.

[devSin]

Originally posted by rarnick:

In PVP, I think 15% physical absorption on a high poise build that trades a lot is pretty significant.

But unless they changed it, it doesn't actually do that against other players (there are several item and spell effects that get nerfed into the ground during PvP, and this at least used to be one of them).

It's not comically useless like the base version, but 4 or 5% (multiplicative) probably still isn't worth a ring slot.

Originally posted by rarnick:

At SL 100,

Yeah, that's what I meant by "lower level" (your first post said 120, and I'm not sure how much use it is there for pure melee).

[RdRStar]

Originally posted by Panchito:

I'm using Favor +3, Chloranty +3, Wolf's Ring +3 and Havel's +3

Just curious. How much poise are you stacking, and what's your primary weapon?

[Hanki]

Originally posted by devSin:

Originally posted by odinigh:

10% DEF isn't nothing

I thought the base was something like 1 or 2%, and then an extra 1% for each level (so like 4 or 5% total at +3) against invaders?

Actually Steel Protection +3 is increases physical absortions by 17%

That can make a difference in PvP as can do the little healing from a blessed off-hand

[Serrassi Effect]

low level: Prisoner's, Favors, Cloranthy and a 4th based on my weapon choise

120: Favor+3, Cloranthy +3, Life +3, Leo Ring for my spear.

[RdRStar]

Originally posted by devSin:

Originally posted by rarnick:

In PVP, I think 15% physical absorption on a high poise build that trades a lot is pretty significant.

But unless they changed it, it doesn't actually do that against other players (there are several item and spell effects that get nerfed into the ground during PvP, and this at least used to be one of them).

It would be really good to know if it is xD !! I feel pretty damn tanky with the thing equipped, but maybe I'm giving the ring too much credit for that.

[Shard of Manus]

Untrue Dark Ring
Silvercat Ring (area dependant)
Lloyd's Sword Ring
Chloranthy Ring

Sometimes on my heavier builds ::

Ring of Favour
Havel's Ring

Other common ones ::

Leo Ring
Hornet Ring
Spell Boosters

I never use Prisoner's Chain on any build ever, or Stoneplate / Steel Protection Rings.

[devSin]

Originally posted by Hank J.:

Actually Steel Protection +3 is increases physical absortions by 17%

In PvE.

Unless they've made major changes lately, it does not do that when you get hit by another player (like I said, the base version used to be 1 or 2% bonus, despite being 10% in PvE, and each upgrade level only gave you an extra 1%).