Yhorm's Great Machete no 2-hit guarantee? FromSoft? Bandai?

[Astralmetic]

I've known this for a long time, Yhorms is my favorite weapon in the whole game. But why is the 2H R1 not a 2-hit guarantee like literally every other weapon. The 1H R1 seems consistent for the 2-hit, why not the 2H? It's really frustrating....

Edit: Thinking more, this is 100% a strength weapon. Strength weapons have the special property on having 150% STR stat when 2-handed. So why is it this weapon is disadvantaged when 2-handing? It does more damage yes (by AR), but with no 2-hit guarantee, it does less in the long run. I could get max like 900-1000 damage with 2 1H R1's. With 1 2H R1, I get ~400-500 damage. Literally half the damage of 1H. Just trying to make my case but this is ridiculous in my opinion. You get a 2-hit guarantee with the Lothric Great Sword. Buff it with lightning blade or a gold pine resin and you get 1000+ damage for 2 2H R1's, gauranteed.

Edit 2: I have been told it happens with the regular Greataxe as well, so I'm assuming it's a moveset issue, not JUST for Yhorm's. Probably happens with all Greataxe types.

Edit 3: It can't always be lag if I can combo the 2 1-handed R1's, but not 2 2-handed R1's on the same person in the same fight which has happened. It's a problem with the weapon, the first hit doesn't stun long enough for the 2nd. Even with greathammers, you can hit with a 2H R1 and follow with a jumping R2 because the first hit stuns long enough. Yet again, Yhorm's can't even get 2 R1's and hammers get an R1 and a Jump.

[Mr Ega]

I've thought the same thing, but I just decided to deal with it, considering it has an absurdly high damage and range with minimal requirements and weight. One-handed, it hits harder than every other weapon two-handed, except the Heavy Greataxe that's shorter than a dagger, Ledo's and Smough's hammers that have ridiculous requirements, and the Heavy Greatsword. And still, if you use War Cry, one-handed it hits harder than Smough's Hammer and the Heavy Greatsword two-handed, even if this last one is buffed with something.

I wouldn't mind a fix considering I also like it... but... meh

[Knight Negev]

weapon is still amazing in pvp

[Astralmetic]

Originally posted by Mr Ega:

I've thought the same thing, but I just decided to deal with it, considering it has an absurdly high damage and range with minimal requirements and weight. One-handed, it hits harder than every other weapon two-handed, except the Heavy Greataxe that's shorter than a dagger, Ledo's and Smough's hammers that have ridiculous requirements, and the Heavy Greatsword. And still, if you use War Cry, one-handed it hits harder than Smough's Hammer and the Heavy Greatsword two-handed, even if this last one is buffed with something.

I wouldn't mind a fix considering I also like it... but... meh

Yeah it's not required I supposed to change. But it's just frustrating having someone 2 hits away from dying and I JUST SO HAPPEN to be 2 handing, I only get 1 hit, then they roll and heal. Nothing absurd, just frustrating sometimes. ESPECIALLY AS A STRENGTH WEAPON, which are usually meant to 2H. If I wanted to 1H, I would've went Dex lmao

[Washing Machine]

Because it's not a DLC weapon.
If it was you'd also combo into some multi hitting WA and probably inflict bleed while at it.

[Astralmetic]

Originally posted by Washing Machine:

Because it's not a DLC weapon.
If it was you'd also combo into some multi hitting WA and probably inflict bleed while at it.

As much as that's a joke, it really seems like it haha. DLC weapons are mostly about true combos, but leave simple 2-hit guarantees null.

[Astralmetic]

Originally posted by Knight Negev of Londor:

weapon is still amazing in pvp

I'm not disagreeing, I'm just advocating for anti-weapon segregation. Why everyone gotta put the Yhorm's down compared to everything else? Yhorm didn't hurt anyone, why make his weapon come with a catch that no other weapon has?

Edit: The greataxe has the same catch, but I'm just assuming it's from the moveset.

[RdRStar]

I've heard the greataxe (sometimes) has the same catch :)

[Astralmetic]

Originally posted by rarnick:

I've heard the greataxe (sometimes) has the same catch :)

It's literally the same weapon set so I wouldn't doubt it haha. I never use the Greataxe just cause of its range, not for me. So I take it back, Yhorm's and the regular Greataxe.

[Mr Ega]

I can 100% guarantee that this does NOT happen with the Greataxe, nor with any other weapon, EXCEPT the Great Machete.

This issue is exclusive only to both these machetes.

[RdRStar]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/133260909492251485/

Link to guy complaining about Greataxe not comboing. I think it's just due to lag.

Last night I ran into an invader from AUS, and Yhorm's 1h r1 wouldn't combo against him. The guy rolled out of 2 combos that should have been 100% guaranteed kills. Could be hacks, I don't know. Had to block him either way xD

[Mr Ega]

Lag (or hacks) may play a part in it, but, taking weird things out of the equation...

Yhorm's has 2 guaranteed hits one-handed. The Greataxe, like every other weapon (except the Great Machete), has 2 guaranteed hits two-handed. This is 100% correct. Not 99.9%, 100%.

[RdRStar]

Yeah I know Yhorm's 2h r1 is pretty much never guaranteed to combo, but I managed to catch this AUS guy with 2 hits 2h (though he somehow rolled away from the 1h r1 combo twice). Seems a ♥♥♥♥ connection can interfere with combos that should or should not be guaranteed, but it's possible the guy was hacking.

[Mr Ega]

Originally posted by Dr. Doctor, MD:

Originally posted by Mr Ega:

Lag (or hacks) may play a part in it, but, taking weird things out of the equation...

Yhorm's has 2 guaranteed hits one-handed. The Greataxe, like every other weapon (except the Great Machete), has 2 guaranteed hits two-handed. This is 100% correct. Not 99.9%, 100%.

It can't be lag if I can combo the 2 1-handed R1's, but not 2 2-handed R1's on the same person in the same fight which has happened. It's a problem with the weapon, the first hit doesn't stun long enough for the 2nd. Even with greathammers, you can hit with a 2H R1 and follow with a jumping R2 because the first hit stuns long enough. Yet again, Yhorm's can't even get 2 R1's and hammers get an R1 and a Jump.

I was replying to the guy right above me that said he couldn't hit one guy two times while one-handing his weapon, not you.

[Astralmetic]

Originally posted by Mr Ega:

Originally posted by Dr. Doctor, MD:

It can't be lag if I can combo the 2 1-handed R1's, but not 2 2-handed R1's on the same person in the same fight which has happened. It's a problem with the weapon, the first hit doesn't stun long enough for the 2nd. Even with greathammers, you can hit with a 2H R1 and follow with a jumping R2 because the first hit stuns long enough. Yet again, Yhorm's can't even get 2 R1's and hammers get an R1 and a Jump.

I was replying to the guy right above me that said he couldn't hit one guy two times while one-handing his weapon, not you.

oh my bad, I'll delete the reply of mine. I thought you were talking to everyone in the post really haha.