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Dragonslayer Armor.
So... who was the host of this armor?
Havel or Ornshtain... Or mb somebody else?
Última edición por Унитаз Учиха; 1 ABR 2017 a las 8:24
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Shard of Manus 1 ABR 2017 a las 11:32 
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Orshtain
It has devolved.

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And btw, Ornshtain transformed to the "Nameless king" dragon.
Oh good lord... no.

The Dragonslayer Armour doesn't have to be an existing character. I highly doubt it's Ornstein, as he has his own armour set. I highly doubt it was Havel, as he has his own armour set. I highly doubt it was Faraam... because wtf?!

The Dragonslayer Armour is just the armour of a Dragonslayer.
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Orshtain
It has devolved.

Publicado originalmente por KvantuS (RU):
And btw, Ornshtain transformed to the "Nameless king" dragon.
Oh good lord... no.

The Dragonslayer Armour doesn't have to be an existing character. I highly doubt it's Ornstein, as he has his own armour set. I highly doubt it was Havel, as he has his own armour set. I highly doubt it was Faraam... because wtf?!

The Dragonslayer Armour is just the armour of a Dragonslayer.

If you read the discription of "havels weapon/shield" it says: "once belonging to havel the rock", wich means... the "havel" we killed, it's not actually Havel himself. It's one of his knights who wants revenge on a firstborn the traitor (he is... because did allied with Dragons, after Gwyns death.) I would say: "Dragonslayer armor" belongs to the Havel, but it's all about speculations.

About dragon... I think Ornshtain became a "Nameless King" dragon, because:
1) We do immitade dragon too, while we are removes our armor and using dragonstones, as Ornshtain did (right after bossfight we can find it... without dead body, right on the ground)
2) 2nd phase of the fight, when we do kills the dragon, Firstborn making execlty same moves as Ornshtain do while DS1 on his own Boss fight. He's absorbing power of his mate to make himself stronger. Nameless king starts to use even more lightnings, wich means dragon were using lightnings... And we all know Dragonslayers are using lightnings against dragons... Dragonslayer = Lightning. Even animations almost the same.
3) Twilink Dragon Head Stone says: "The illusion achieved was the first case of a human imitating the form of an ancient dragon, and it revealed the smallness of human existence. The road to the old dragons is long and arduous, and only one can complete the journey." Here we go... Only 1 did achive it, Ornshatain. :praisesun:

About Faaram... He was forgotten god of war, wich was "god" for knights from Forosso. Nameless King was forgotten too... So pretty sure it's the same person. Maybe i'm wrong... Tell me your theory.
Última edición por Унитаз Учиха; 1 ABR 2017 a las 12:31
Oh and for sure
Fighting style looks almost like Havels one.
Kodaxmax 2 ABR 2017 a las 1:45 
Its an animated suit of armor. Canonically ornstein and smough died in the first few cycles (though ornstein in DS2 was ressurected or kept alive by the abyss, but we don't talk about DS2 lore).
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Its an animated suit of armor. Canonically ornstein and smough died in the first few cycles (though ornstein in DS2 was ressurected or kept alive by the abyss, but we don't talk about DS2 lore).
How the hell did you engage abyss to the Ornshtain ressurectuin? xD

And yes... It's animated suite of armor. But if you read the discription. It was an owner befor and that's what i'm talking about.
Última edición por Унитаз Учиха; 2 ABR 2017 a las 2:01
Dura 2 ABR 2017 a las 2:02 
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It was clearly Patches.
Patches is no one, but he is everyone.
We are all Patches.

Are you a cleric? If so....

See there are riches down there? Just a quick look on that ledge where you can easily fall down. Do not worry. I've got your back.
Hunubul 2 ABR 2017 a las 2:18 
Faraam is the Nameless king. Based on etimology and lore implications.

Ornstein is ♥♥♥♥. I mean the whole thing about him being there... We killed him in Anor Londo. We had to. We had his soul. And then DS2 fanservice, and then DS3 had to do the same also trying to solve the problem DS2 made.

The name off the bossfight is Dragonslayer Armor. We fight an armor, and ~4 angels are shooting ♥♥♥♥ at you. We know from the DLC pilgrim snails are controlling the angels, and the angels die when we kill the armor -> 99% chance that those snails are controlling the armor as well.

And the one in the swamp of the DLC -> it's haunted. Yeah, that's it. A ghost of some kind is controlling it.
Kodaxmax 2 ABR 2017 a las 2:30 
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Its an animated suit of armor. Canonically ornstein and smough died in the first few cycles (though ornstein in DS2 was ressurected or kept alive by the abyss, but we don't talk about DS2 lore).
How the hell did you engage abyss to the Ornshtain ressurectuin? xD

And yes... It's animated suite of armor. But if you read the discription. It was an owner befor and that's what i'm talking about.
Ornstein was either killed by us in the first game or died before that (I think he died before we kill atorias. The 4 knights are in disrepair and i doub't such a chivilras knight would sit idly by with atorias and hawkeye in that state).

He also cant be undead as he isn't human. He is the same race as gwyn, so i doubt i he could live so long.

The old dragonslayer in ds2 also uses dark attacks/damage which are directly linked to the abyss and humanity. These attributes can also be observed in the corrupted atorious. Hexes/ dark magic manipulate life or humanity and can deter death or even reincarnate with a powerful sorceror.

Its more likely however that he is an illusion again or just armor given life by a hex.

The dragonslayer in 3 is unrelated, probably just based of the original ornstein designs.



Its also so possible that somone absorbed a remnant of ornsteins soul, similar to how the lord souls reincarnate.
Última edición por Kodaxmax; 2 ABR 2017 a las 2:32
Player117 2 ABR 2017 a las 2:33 
Well, talking about Dragonslayer's Armour, can anyone have a guess on what creature that the Iron Dragonslayer's helmet depicted? Ornstein's depicts a lion, but this one seems to depict a more alien-like beast. It gives me a vibe of an "edgy", armored design of a hammerhead shark, however.

I could say that it may be some random Berserk homage (see Locus' apostle form) but I want to hear what you guys think about it.
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Well, talking about Dragonslayer's Armour, can anyone have a guess on what creature that the Iron Dragonslayer's helmet depicted? Ornstein's depicts a lion, but this one seems to depict a more alien-like beast. It gives me a vibe of an "edgy", armored design of a hammerhead shark, however.

I could say that it may be some random Berserk homage (see Locus' apostle form) but I want to hear what you guys think about it.

In fact... Only 4 Gwyn knights was associated with animals.
Wolf, Hawk, Leo, Hornet.
This way... it might be just somebody who did serve the Ornshtain/Faaram/Gwyn or mb even Havel.

Btw... Did you notice guys notice Dragonslayer Greataxe and Dragonslayer Spear has got almost same design. For example this "cross".
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/file/Dark-Souls-3/dragonslayer_greataxe.png
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/file/Dark-Souls-3/dragonslayer_spear.png
And even Faaram spear has got same "cross".
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/file/Dark-Souls-3/dragonslayer_swordspear.png
Última edición por Унитаз Учиха; 2 ABR 2017 a las 4:17
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How the hell did you engage abyss to the Ornshtain ressurectuin? xD

And yes... It's animated suite of armor. But if you read the discription. It was an owner befor and that's what i'm talking about.
Ornstein was either killed by us in the first game or died before that (I think he died before we kill atorias. The 4 knights are in disrepair and i doub't such a chivilras knight would sit idly by with atorias and hawkeye in that state).

He also cant be undead as he isn't human. He is the same race as gwyn, so i doubt i he could live so long.

The old dragonslayer in ds2 also uses dark attacks/damage which are directly linked to the abyss and humanity. These attributes can also be observed in the corrupted atorious. Hexes/ dark magic manipulate life or humanity and can deter death or even reincarnate with a powerful sorceror.

Its more likely however that he is an illusion again or just armor given life by a hex.

The dragonslayer in 3 is unrelated, probably just based of the original ornstein designs.



Its also so possible that somone absorbed a remnant of ornsteins soul, similar to how the lord souls reincarnate.

I like the way you thinking about reincornation. Twisted souls e.t.c.
But seems like this is not reincarnation. So... what about this Gwyn "race".
Can you please tell me about it more?
StopItGetSomeHelp 2 ABR 2017 a las 4:28 
It's actually Loretta
Shard of Manus 2 ABR 2017 a las 4:37 
Please stop saying Ornshtain.

Please stop saying the armour could be Havel. No, it could not possibly whatsoever be Havel.

It is most likely that the Dragonslayer Armour (although now animated by Pilgrim Butterflies in Lothric, and the Abyss in The Ringed City) belonged to an unnamed dragonslayer that took part in the war.

Alternatively... he has nothing to do with Gwyn, his Dragonslayers or anything about that... since we find him in the middle of Lothric Castle.

My opinion, is that he was a second Dragonslayer.

Sacred Oath states the following, "This is the tale of the Sun's firstborn, his faithful first knight, and the brave dragonslayer who served them both."

Making the assumption that Ornstein is the First Knight... which is my opinion, I would place the previous owner of the Dragonslayer Armour as the brave dragonslayer that served them both. As the potential captain of the Four Knights, it would hardly be surprising if Ornstein had subordinates; even other Dragonslayers.

It being Havel is still ridiculous. Havel had an iconic armour set, and wielded a Dragon Tooth, as did the rest of his 'army' in mimicry of him and his fighting style. It's not actually explicitly stated that anyone other than Havel wielded the Tooth or his Shield... but the Havel's Ring and armour set was worn by all.
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Please stop saying Ornshtain.

Please stop saying the armour could be Havel. No, it could not possibly whatsoever be Havel.

It is most likely that the Dragonslayer Armour (although now animated by Pilgrim Butterflies in Lothric, and the Abyss in The Ringed City) belonged to an unnamed dragonslayer that took part in the war.

Alternatively... he has nothing to do with Gwyn, his Dragonslayers or anything about that... since we find him in the middle of Lothric Castle.

My opinion, is that he was a second Dragonslayer.

Sacred Oath states the following, "This is the tale of the Sun's firstborn, his faithful first knight, and the brave dragonslayer who served them both."

Making the assumption that Ornstein is the First Knight... which is my opinion, I would place the previous owner of the Dragonslayer Armour as the brave dragonslayer that served them both. As the potential captain of the Four Knights, it would hardly be surprising if Ornstein had subordinates; even other Dragonslayers.

It being Havel is still ridiculous. Havel had an iconic armour set, and wielded a Dragon Tooth, as did the rest of his 'army' in mimicry of him and his fighting style. It's not actually explicitly stated that anyone other than Havel wielded the Tooth or his Shield... but the Havel's Ring and armour set was worn by all.

1) 4 knights of the Gwyn (from DS1). So this knights was befor Gwyn did sacrifice himself to the fire.
2) Dragon Tooth Havel starts to use "after" he was a dragonslayer, and befor... he did use this Axe with lightning (against dragons).
3) Ornshtain was captain of dragonslayers (but only while Gwyn was alive)
4) Faaram and Ornshtain was pretty close combat friends.
Última edición por Унитаз Учиха; 2 ABR 2017 a las 5:51
GMҞ 2 ABR 2017 a las 5:59 
It doesn't matter.
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