How is Gwyndolin on Dark souls 3 ? (spoilers maybe)

[Carve your fate]

At least I made sure that I killed him several times on Dark Souls 1, so was that not cannon? or was it just a mere shadow of the true god?

[bAllu]

not canon i guess

[lpnlizard27]

Consider that he was optional in the first game...

so maybe your hero didnt kill him within the convoluted multiverse.

[dye area]

Dark Souls 3 takes place both before and after Dark Souls 1 (not counting DS2 as canon) due to the wonder of Bonfire Time Travel.

Firelink Shrine and the whole Iudex area is current time, as is the Kiln of the First Flame, whereas everywhere from Lothric to wherever the last mandatory area is (I forget right now) is before the events of DS1, so Little Boy Gwyndolin is alive then, although being consumed. When you kill Aldrich, wyndolin is freed and then bam, Dark Souls 1 can happen.

The secondary areas all take place at different times during the Dark Souls timeline(s?) and as such aren't strictly part of the main story of the Unkindled one.

Hope this helped,
Cookie.

[Carve your fate]

Originally posted by bAllu:

not canon i guess

I guess thats just part of Miyazaki type of storytelling

[Carve your fate]

Originally posted by a happy cookie:

Dark Souls 3 takes place both before and after Dark Souls 1 (not counting DS2 as canon) due to the wonder of Bonfire Time Travel.

Firelink Shrine and the whole Iudex area is current time, as is the Kiln of the First Flame, whereas everywhere from Lothric to wherever the last mandatory area is (I forget right now) is before the events of DS1, so Little Boy Gwyndolin is alive then, although being consumed. When you kill Aldrich, wyndolin is freed and then bam, Dark Souls 1 can happen.

The secondary areas all take place at different times during the Dark Souls timeline(s?) and as such aren't strictly part of the main story of the Unkindled one.

Hope this helped,
Cookie.

I really disagree with you. When you kill Aldrich Gwyndolin is dead af. He is Aldrichs ♥♥♥♥♥ and puppet so in my opinion this game is clearly after Dark souls 1 (also the lords of cinder and also that we arent undead, but unkindled now).

[dye area]

Originally posted by Going Merry:

I really disagree with you. When you kill Aldrich Gwyndolin is dead af. He is Aldrichs ♥♥♥♥♥ and puppet so in my opinion this game is clearly after Dark souls 1 (also the lords of cinder and also that we arent undead, but unkindled now).

Well, what I said was mostly theory, but I'm fairly sure it's been confirmed that DS3 has time travel in it with the bonfires.

After reading up on it for a good 3 minutes, I've seen a fairly convincing idea that Aldrich is simply feeding upon the corpse of Gwyndolin during the fight, which is why he's able to control the body.

Either way, it's nothing more than a theory, really.

[Carve your fate]

Originally posted by a happy cookie:

Originally posted by Going Merry:

I really disagree with you. When you kill Aldrich Gwyndolin is dead af. He is Aldrichs ♥♥♥♥♥ and puppet so in my opinion this game is clearly after Dark souls 1 (also the lords of cinder and also that we arent undead, but unkindled now).

Well, what I said was mostly theory, but I'm fairly sure it's been confirmed that DS3 has time travel in it with the bonfires.

After reading up on it for a good 3 minutes, I've seen a fairly convincing idea that Aldrich is simply feeding upon the corpse of Gwyndolin during the fight, which is why he's able to control the body.

Either way, it's nothing more than a theory, really.

I think more than time travel is like different realms ( pretty much same xD) Like Untended Graves is during the Age of Dark.
Yeah, its just a theory.....

[Raidden]

Originally posted by Going Merry:

Originally posted by bAllu:

not canon i guess

I guess thats just part of Miyazaki type of storytelling

The way of nonexistent story telling and "your choices matter, not really"? Even worse story telling then the ending of mass effect endings? Yeah, that sucks.

Even when you do dk2 and do all the dlc, get the crowns, and become super special snow flake does he go anywhere with that? NOPE. And it was a huge deal.

[Rahx]

I can garuntee you guys that Dark Souls 3 takes place after DS1. The entire plot is that its a cycle. The flame will always fade at some point and someone needs to become kindle. This was not the case before the first Flame, not too long before DS1.
The reason Gwyndolin is still there is because he is indeed the last god that remained. So throughout the cycles he remained untill aldrich got him and slowly devoured him.

[Elwetritsch]

DS1 and DS3 are are mostly settled around the (former) Lordran region and its cultural area of influence. DS2 is far, far away, so these lands are more or less legends to each other. A trick, to have one storysline not screw up the other one too much.

As for Gwyndolin, he must have either not been killed in the assumed canon version, or he was not killed "properly". Could have been just another illusion and stuff. Who knows? Or we are in an alternate timeline and not merely just "later".

[lazymagpie]

On topic: Apparently, it's canonical that Gwyndolin's illusion is never revealed by the Chosen Undead. So they neither killed Gwynevere's double, nor did they trespass on Gwyn's tomb. Or, going further, Gwyndolin faked their death to escape defeat, and it was their weakened state which allowed Sullyvahn to capture them in the first place.

[Raidden]

Originally posted by a happy cookie:

Dark Souls 3 takes place both before and after Dark Souls 1

What, no. This is a terrible theory. Anor Londo is long gone and replaced by lothric and the boreal valley. There is nothing that supports time travel other then the untended graves, and that much is a stretch because you didnt have to go back in time to get the eyes, it could have been a different place entirely. The painting dlc is confusing piece.

[Rahx]

DS1 lore was self contained. Gwyn wanted to keep the age of fire going and feared that a king would rise from humans and bring an age of darkness. In DS1 you can choose to do either; link the flame or be that person Gwyn was afraid of.
[Fourth wall break: Since DS1 was a hit, they made DS2 and had to annex this story. So everything else is added and may not always make sense]
DS2 is another cycle of flame. Just like lodran a land far away where the gods reside, Drangleic is the new Lodran. yada yada yada, flame about to go out, either link it or start dark age. This is when they started to dabble with cycles and chosen undead not linking the flame and getting offed later.

[Rahx]

DS3 yet another cycle. But now, you are not undead but a remnant of a past lord(s). Created solely because noone is linking the flame, so the ashes of those who did basically come back to do what others are not willing to. So you are meant to link the flame as ash. But you get deceived (reverse of DS1) and can be given a dark sigil and brand yourself as a hallow and become something you weren't meant to be a Dark lord. So again now you can choose link the flame or usher an age of darkness or as a third option, link the flame to hallows one without a soul to link.

[Carve your fate]

Originally posted by Raidden:

Originally posted by Going Merry:

I guess thats just part of Miyazaki type of storytelling

The way of nonexistent story telling and "your choices matter, not really"? Even worse story telling then the ending of mass effect endings? Yeah, that sucks.

Even when you do dk2 and do all the dlc, get the crowns, and become super special snow flake does he go anywhere with that? NOPE. And it was a huge deal.

Dude you dony understand