Why do Aldritch Faithful bow after kills, as if they were being honorable?

[Dragalen]

They're literally all ganking scumbags who deserve to die. I have yet to meet ONE aldritch faithful who's not a metamancing ♥♥♥♥.

[Skeleton]

Originally posted by Spout:

Probably just to mock you. Feel free to seed them or summon sun bros. Territorial covenants are pure cancer, unlike random red guys. To my suprise red phantoms are mostly alright. I have seen reds refusing to chug estus, not hiding behind mobs, giving me embers or even leaving with black crystal when they see that im alone.

Originally posted by Kawaii Fire Keeper:

That is the point of the covenant unfortunately. To gank Hosts going through Anor Londo.

My advice? Go through Anor Londo with Way of Blue on (helps out us Darkmoons/Blue Sents as well) or go offline. You don't even need to de-Ember, just go offline if the rate of invasion frequency bothers you.

Way of the Blue does not help against territorial gankers.

That is absolutely wrong. Completely. 100%.

Way of Blue summons Blue Sentinels, and Darkmoon Blades into your world if you have been invaded by any of the territorial gank-covenants (or invaded in-general). I get summoned into Woods, and Anor Londo all the time (SL40, and SL80-120 ranges respectively). Especially common to see summons at Anor Londo where it is the Host against two AF. Alone.

Wow dude.

[Trehek]

Originally posted by tizius:

When I invade as an aldrich and it happens that we 2/3vs1 the host, I bow to say "sorry, you couldn't win but you did well".

Pretty much this. Bowing is courtesy, and with the limited expression available must be interpreted by the recipient.

"Let's have a good fight."
"Thanks for the fight."
"Sorry for the unfair fight."
"Will one of you 1v1 me? (i.e. fight honorably)"

In general, if I had fun and the opponent didn't do anything particularly annoying like chain summoning or running the marathon in a 1v1, I may give them a bow regardless of my covenant.

[.Stream]

Originally posted by Kawaii Fire Keeper:

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So, your main counter argument is "New hosts don't have as much estus so hah, plus ember/30% hp/1 hit (2 for smaller weapons) doesn't make much of a difference". As for the clearing thing, my very first clear was mostly done without an ember. So no invasions and I missed a lot, this was at launch month. The 2nd, 3rd,4th, etc was done embered and I had no real problems with invaders as I didn't use dried finger. My latest one was just 2 weeks ago. P.S, Never in my post did I say "Host is guaranteed a win because ember and more estus", I simply implied that the host has advantages in a 1v1 scenario and if they do encounter a 2v1 or even 3v1 scenario, it's mostly their fault for letting it get that bad.

I don't know about you, but if he's getting invaded by people with full estus, then so be it. Twinking, clearing the game earlier ( Or the host just being overleveled ), etc. It's an invasion, the invader is still at a disadvantage and they're here to kill hosts and not fight for "Honour". Besides, if you use "New" hosts as arguments, then they can just unember or go offline if they don't like the PvP aspect, but as I see it the people who complain about these things are people who specifically choose to PvP in this area and get salty. Not to mention I doubt it's a new host playing if they use dried finger, and if it is it's their fault for getting ganked, is it not?

As for your "30% HP doesn't matter", if the host was actually a good player, every bit of HP counts. Even more so if the host is using a counter hit/trade based weapon. Imagine 2 players same weapon, every time they trade, they both get hit, but the person with even 1 hit of HP difference will win if they trade constantly. This isn't mentioning player builds though, but even then, 30% of a low vigor build can buff it enough to give the host enough vigor as a regular build... on top of the stats he/she put boosted to forego vig. TL;DR of this paragraph is HP matters, 1 hit can mean winning or losing a fight if both players are equal skill. Plus ember HP boost is free HP, hosts can put more points into something else.

As for the covenant thing I have no clue why you're saying that against my post. Nothing in my post says that aldrich isn't a gank covenent, heck I even agree that 2 aldrich can invade at once... but if a host is embered in a pvp hotspot ( which should be evident after the first few times in this area ), then it's their choice NOT to summon a friendly phantom, unember, go offline or just kill their invaders. even moreso if they use dried finger.

[Karina]

Originally posted by Kawaii Fire Keeper:

Originally posted by Spout:

Probably just to mock you. Feel free to seed them or summon sun bros. Territorial covenants are pure cancer, unlike random red guys. To my suprise red phantoms are mostly alright. I have seen reds refusing to chug estus, not hiding behind mobs, giving me embers or even leaving with black crystal when they see that im alone.


Way of the Blue does not help against territorial gankers.

That is absolutely wrong. Completely. 100%.

Way of Blue summons Blue Sentinels, and Darkmoon Blades into your world if you have been invaded by any of the territorial gank-covenants (or invaded in-general). I get summoned into Woods, and Anor Londo all the time (SL40, and SL80-120 ranges respectively). Especially common to see summons at Anor Londo where it is the Host against two AF. Alone.

Wow dude.

It is absolutly true. Way of the Blue WONT summon blue spirits if you are invaded by Failfull or Hotdogs (territorial covenants), it only provides assistance against reds and purples. I know this for sure- i was messing around with Hotdogs one day- i hide in very sneaky bush with dryed fingers up and guess what- help never arrives. I got blue summoned to aid me ONLY when purple guy bumped in.

[.Stream]

Originally posted by Spout:

It is absolutly true. Way of the Blue WONT summon blue spirits if you are invaded by Failfull or Hotdogs (territorial covenants),

Originally posted by Kawaii Fire Keeper:

That is absolutely wrong. Completely. 100%.
Wow dude.

Sprout isn't lying. I feel that Kawaii Fire Keeper, KFK from now on, is posting without even concrete knowledge or facts. Though, I agree it's stupid that help won't be summoned for area defense covenants.

Originally posted by Blades of the darkmoon WIKI:

Blades of the Darkmoon are only summoned in response to players who invaded by using a Red Eye Orb. Hostile players who were summoned through red or white signs, or who invaded using the Aldrich Faithful or Watchdog of Farron covenant items, do not cause Darkmoons to be summoned.

Originally posted by Blue sentinel WIKI:

Inexplicably Blue Sentinels will NOT be summoned to protect a player against invading Aldrich Faithful defending Anor Londo or Watchdogs of Farron in the swamps.

[Mr_Faorry]

You should probably change "Aldrich faithful" to "dishonourable invaders".

It's like me saying "Why are all black people thieves?", sure some of them are, but not all of them, there are other thieves that aren't black.

Same thing here, sure, some Aldrich Faithful will gank you and use scummy tactics, but not all of them do, other, non Aldrich Faithful, invaders will do that too, it's not exclusive to Aldrich Faithful.

[cridus]

Yeah, we're still talking about people here. Generalizing like that nakes no sense.

[Corona Scurrae]

and here we go again. this thread is beyond stupid and op this is not your personal blog.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Lashan.W:

Then there are people who would happily gank you even if you're a lone host.

Lone hosts are just gankers who haven't summoned yet.
Thanks Otz.

[MajorJace]

You rarther I Point Down at you?

[Spitalett]

Guys cm on why you make problems where there are no problems at all. If someone invades you in anor londo just put on obscuring ring or git gud and face invaders; it's challenging having 3 invaders at same time, and it's fun. Like it's challenging and fun having host and 2 phantoms trying to gank you. It's the game.
If you want honorable 1v1 duels go to arena (yes, you can still find honorable players there) or go playing medieval warfare.

This is dark souls 3, gank fests everywhere.

[Dr. Uncredible]

Jace has a point, I mean the faithful are apparently giving you a measure of respect. Treasure that.

[MajorJace]

Yeah, the only time someone has ever given me a Bow is in a Duel, the rest of the time it's dung pie on my dead corpse, Patches Squat or a Point Down.

[Hunubul]

"Wow I used dried finger that inceases number of invasions in an area where I can have up to 4 invaders. Why do they all attack me?"

Because they can. You are literally asking for it.

[Meat Man (Alfons)]

"Bows"

WHAT? NOT HONORABRU YOU C-

"Joy"

WHAT STOP TAUNTING ME YOU AHOle!"

"Point down"

AAaAAa

What shall I gesture with?