Is the Greatlance still a steaming pile of poop?

[DalekRek]

I loved the Greatlance in DS2 (probably the best thing in DS2) and back at launch I was very sad to see that it sucked this time around. Ive heard that pikes in general arent as bad as they were, but is the Greatlance even usable now?

[Baking Soda™]

tracking, speed, and hyperarmor were improved, so i assume it's the best pike, but i haven't tried it personally.

there was an effective method for it pre-buff, but it was pretty gimmicky.

[DalekRek]

Out of curiosity, what was that method? I just want to have some idea if I'll get a decent return on it before I dump materials into it

[76561198381305277]

isnt using the greatlance (or any weapon with the charging r2) basically just asking for a backstab?

at least thats how it is in ds2,not sure about it here,never used lances very often if i had any other decent choice

[DalekRek]

Eh I'm mostly talking about PvE. That thing carried me through DS2 PvE

[Baking Soda™]

Ursprungligen skrivet av richardwallace38:

Out of curiosity, what was that method? I just want to have some idea if I'll get a decent return on it before I dump materials into it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea_4Y41VWdI

this should still work, but even safer now that the r1 is faster and has hyperarmor.

[WolfPad]

Greatlance is pretty good now, especially infused with heavy.
Hyperarmor is very large on the weapon art and the charge is the longest in the game I think. Great for wake-up and roll catching.

It's not as easy to parry as you may think, the parry timing for the charge is probably earlier than you may think so it can catch you unawares if you try time it as you would another charge WA.