The Crow Quills.

[ WraithGear]

Ok so I got ahold of them to try them out. but they are not as I expected. All my information found on this weapon seems out of date.

The wiki lists themn at 120 bleed (this sounded ludicrous) though the weapon has none.
The damage is very low, and the quill throw is laughable. against hollows i am looking about 8-20 damage when i hit with all quills, and contrary to my initial impressions, there is talk that the quills can not apply status!

the L1 combo has not very good tracking, easy to escape, low damage, and has heavy punishment windows.

The R1 combo is just a rapier.

how would one use this weapon in combat? seems to limit the players options heavily.

[Yavanna]

Crow Quills are actually an amazingly underused weapon, the 1st L1 can punish roll spammers that keep close while R1 into L1 can combo and it even has the 3rd L1 which can punish too.

Only thing that sucks about the weapon is running L1, only gets worse if you just spam attacks asking to be parried / punished.

[Knight Negev]

it's 120 critical, not bleed tho

[ WraithGear]

though right now the daggers are looking better damage wise, will it be worth putting bleed on it?

[Ari]

It has S scaling in dex with sharp. :3

[lmaogg]

As a status build lover, the only thing I am dissapointed with it is that the WA darts doesn't really add or even add bleed/poison after immerse testing.

[aathimar]

Originally posted by Arazeth:

It has S scaling in dex with sharp. :3

Yes and it was an argument to use quills when there were only two S scaling dex weapons. This and 130% critical rate.

After they added more S scaling dex weapons that are just better and nerfed critical rate there's no real need to use CQ.

[Ari]

Originally posted by aathimar:

After they added more S scaling dex weapons that are just better and nerfed critical rate there's not real need to use this.

Except you like this weapon and you don't give a sh*t about meta weapons.

[Knight Negev]

Originally posted by  WraithGear:

though right now the daggers are looking better damage wise, will it be worth putting bleed on it?

no

[BiggieJohn]

crow quill is still meta, you just pair it with something in need of range.

I've been hot swapping them in place of frayed blade to mix it up mid fight. It's really hard to adapt to.

But by meta if you mean simply overused/popular then stack that strength and switch to UGS/UGM

[ WraithGear]

i am really looking for bleed stacking i guess, so far the best thing i found was the bandit knife at the begining of the game. it got me all the way up to the last boss in the crow zone area, and then all the way up to the 3rd wave. going to really miss that side step.

the fact that the crow quill L2 is worthless kinda makes me wary about trying to learn to use this weapon. I can under stand doing ♥♥♥♥ for damage, but no stacking? Why open my self up to free counter hits, use my FP, not get hyper armor, and do no damage?

[lmaogg]

Originally posted by  WraithGear:

i am really looking for bleed stacking i guess, so far the best thing i found was the bandit knife at the begining of the game. it got me all the way up to the last boss in the crow zone area, and then all the way up to the 3rd wave. going to really miss that side step.

the fact that the crow quill L2 is worthless kinda makes me wary about trying to learn to use this weapon. I can under stand doing ♥♥♥♥ for damage, but no stacking? Why open my self up to free counter hits, use my FP, not get hyper armor, and do no damage?

That's why it's crap for status build, nice balance Fromsoft. And I was expecting it to work nicely like those skeletons in carthus who does the same dart move but bleed you.

[Grottowalker]

even post nerf the CQ are still an amazing weapon, whille ill still miss the extra 10 critical, the scaling and AR for the speed and moveset is great.

the only thing lacking on this weapon is the weapon art but i can live with a lame weapon art for how good the rest of the weapon is.



as aathimar said, more weapons got better scaling so there are lots of good weapon choices now.