Zweihander vs. astora

[OnionBro]

Which one should i use? the astora has 612 AR and the zwei has 644 AR. they do about the same damage in PvP and PvE, but i like the astora moveset. Any thoughts?

[Yallus]

I'd go for Astora, if it's only a choice between those two.

[OnionBro]

what else is good?

[juicy]

honestly I don't get why people use Astora GS. swings too slow for me to like it.

[PaulieZero]

Astora infuses really well in several ways. worth reading the page on the wiki

[galvanicAssaulter]

It comes down to the smallest detail with these two.

- Two pounds lighter
- DEX investment
- Charge instead of Stomp
- Rolling Attack Standard versus Thrust
- Unchanged moveset w/ 2handed

I almost thought I'd use the Zweihander when I saw it's Rolling Attack was still the stab, whereas the Astora Ultra Greatsword had a different animation. But seeing that the 2handed Heavy Attack (charged) was Standard as opposed to Thrust upset me personally because of something I was working with. Overall these are dangerously similar but not quite identical swords, just like the Claymore and Bastard Sword.

[Velkhana's Summer]

uhm neither this is fashion souls get the crescent axe

[Pyramid Bread]

Originally posted by Solid Salad:

uhm neither this is fashion souls get the crescent axe

As far as good looking weapons go, Astora GS is buttery. Looks so damn sleek

[Smith Wesson]

I would go with the Bass cannon

[Artek [General]]

Zweihander is heavily intended for two-handed gameplay.
It reaches about 580 AR and higher when heavy-infused and with and 60 strength.

Astora on the other hand is the oposite and reaches the best AR when sharp-infused with high dex investment and is as viable one-handed as it is two-handed.

Aside from that the main differences are:
Weapon Arts: Zweihander's Stomp > Smash against Astora's CHAAAAARGE
Rolling attacks: Zweihander has thrust rolling attacks while Astora does great-sword like ground smash instead.
Two-handed R2: Zweihander does a ground-slam (exclusive to zweihander) while astora does a thrust.
One-handed fully-charged R2 thrust: Zweihander will send foes flying with it, Astora will not (but it will if two-handed).

[newbie]

I don't like Astro so I vote for zwei