Sister of Mercy Achievement

[romanius16]

Hi all,
is there somebody who completed this achievement?please send guide if yes...
thanks a lot

[darkflemish]

Found on reddit : You need both your characters to be forgiving and you need to have taught Madora to not be as hostile to what is different.

(For example she makes a remark about the snowmen in hiberheim, if you agree with her you reinforce her personality. If you go against her she agrees that even she can learn a thing or two still.)

All in all I believe there are something like 5 of these dialogues you get between Cyseal and Hunters edge, where she must spare the orc upstairs.

[romanius16]

Hi thanks- i have now 4 these situations done-so i hope one or two will be in hunters edge to complete it-because i have forgiing on 4 ...i tried it to talk with Porok but still no dialog option to spare him but i hope the 5th situation will help to change it...

I am happy that this is not bugged but only annoying achievement.

Thanks,

[darthur]

I have been wondering this too, and found two useful pieces of info:

- The one linked above that suggests the achievement is possible.
- This one which claims to list the required conversations but claims the game crashes even when the requirements are met: http://larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=575085

[romanius16]

thanks for info so it is not possible to complete it now? or someone make this?

[_biggoodeeny]

Yep. Got that achievment

[romanius16]

Hi i also did it just now...it is tricky and there are more than 5 dialogues for madora but i found a guide and done it...

[Megametal42]

Can you tell me what guide you used? I did 6 of these conversations in the first town, and have still not gotten it. What exactly do we need to do? This is very annoying...

[romanius16]

hi,
here is the guide i followed:
Cyseal:

After the sparkmaster -> Fortunately for us, no one did ask you, Madora. No magician is perfect, and this little fiasco doesn't justify a wholesale rejection of all wizarding kind.

After talking to the grieving orc -> What kind of Source Hunter can't show an ounce of compassion to someone so obviously bereft?

After killing Victoria and telling Eglandear -> I won't deny responsibility for Victoria's death, but I hardly see this case as a cause for special celebration. Victoria was no Sourcerer.

Decide to kill the Charmed orc -> It's hardly the union itself to which I'm opposed - merely that, if that love potion wore off, she might turn violent.
OR
Decide to spare the Charmed Orc -> Does the thought of interbreeding sicken you so? For my part, the union itself is hardly a problem, and I'd claim that anyone opposed to the couple on those grounds is small-minded indeed.

Talk to Thelyron about the healing stone -> Given your penchant for spotting Source in Cyseal's every harmless cranny, such an accusation holds little weight.

After talking to a guard next to a zapper -> 'Doomsday device'? 'Source sapphire'? Why don't we keep along this 'poisonous path' and carry on with our 'insidious investigation.' Meanwhile, Madora, keep the crackpot commentary to yourself.

After leaving the homestead for the first time -> If what Zixzax says is true and we really are affecting the tapestry of time, I certainly want to know more!


Hiberheim:

After killing a snow warden -> Anything dependent on cloud cover for survival is better put out of its misery, I say.


Luculla Forest:

After talking to Lawrence -> I thought the same; his fawning is more likely a symptom of fear than of respect.

After talking to Almina at the Hiberheim portal -> Now that you mention it, it does seem rather foolish to heed the call of a disembodied voice within a known Sourcerer’s grotto...


Dark Forest:

After hearing Grutilda or Leonard talking about Norok -> Be patient; We can't blow our cover over a personal vendetta.

[romanius16]

and it really works...as you can see there are some very strange and for me uknown situations and some which were told to work are not there....

[Megametal42]

I saw that guide as well. My issue was that I was expecting to get the achievement after doing 5 conversations, and totally forgetting that I still needed to actually finish her quest line. Thanks

[wulfe]

There is an achievement named after my fav band? Now I really need to get this game

[SenSx]

Sorry to up this old thread, but why not ask my question here ?

I'm going to try the Sister of Mercy achievement...BUT do you really need to keep Madora in your team the WHOLE time ?
Can't you just have her in the team for those specific dialogues, pick the fitting answers, and then swap her for an other companion, until there is another dialogue check to do ?

Thx, I would not want to ruin my next playthrough, but if I can change companion this time, I'd enjoy more my run.

[_biggoodeeny]

SenSx,
I think it should work. And dont forget about "forgiving" higher than "vindictive", if i remember correctly.

[SenSx]

Ok thanks, I hope it will work.

Coming from DoS 2, I find the game system a bit too complex compare to the sequel...
I did play DoS EE first, but I don't remember it well, I don't even know where to put my points for max efficiency ><

[SenSx]

I made a quick rush, and it worked !

Here are the dialogues I triggered:


- After talking to a guard next to a zapper -> 'Doomsday device'? 'Source sapphire'? Why don't we keep along this 'poisonous path' and carry on with our 'insidious investigation.' Meanwhile, Madora, keep the crackpot commentary to yourself.

- After leaving the homestead for the first time -> If what Zixzax says is true and we really are affecting the tapestry of time, I certainly want to know more!

- Talk to Thelyron about the healing stone -> Given your penchant for spotting Source in Cyseal's every harmless cranny, such an accusation holds little weight.

- Decide to spare the Charmed Orc -> Does the thought of interbreeding sicken you so? For my part, the union itself is hardly a problem, and I'd claim that anyone opposed to the couple on those grounds is small-minded indeed.

- After talking to Lawrence -> "Your paranoia becomes increasingly tiresome by the day Madora"

- After hearing Grutilda or Leonard talking about Norok -> Be patient; We can't blow our cover over a personal vendetta. (DOES NOT COUNT FOR THE FIVE).

I made many tests.
I confirm the right answer for Lawrence is "Your paranoia becomes increasingly tiresome by the day Madora", so the one in the guide is wrong.

And that this dialogue:
- After hearing Grutilda or Leonard talking about Norok -> Be patient; We can't blow our cover over a personal vendetta.

Does not count.
Sure picking the other options "we will make Norok pay" might makes you fail the achievement.
But skipping entirely this dialogue has no impact, and the right answer does not count towards the achievement.
You need 5 more.

Also I can confirm you don't need Madora in your party the whole time.
I only picked her for the dialogues and removed her immediatly.
I red you need to have her in the phantom forest the whole time.
This is wrong, you only need her for the dialogues, and obviously, to resolve the quest.

And don't forget about the forgiving trait on one of the main characters, you don't need it on both.
Maybe you need compassionate or others.