Is "Tactition mode" impossible?

[claymore]

Am new to DOS and I always like to start a game in the hardest difficulty. When I got to my first fight at the beach it was a one sided match. I exhusted what little resourcse I had all in a manner of three turns. Basically my @$$ was grass in no time. Is there a game plus that transfere your stat over from a previous game to compensate for this challenging play through? Has anyone had better luck or skill in this mode?

[Enor]

the first fight is very easy. if you having problems with that, you should definitely switch to classic or explorer mode. it gets a lot harder.

[Darkreaver1980]

Yeah, Tactical mode is realy challenging. Im playing it with 2 lone wolf chars and it is REALY hard and i simply love that

[Woland]

It's definitely not impossible, but certainly harder with certain class combinations.
Most of your initial opponents are skeletons - which I believe are quite resistant to piercing/slashing damage. That's quite noticeable for archers and dagger classes early in the game.

I'm doing tactician mode with Lone Wolves with a friend of mine. Some fights are quite challanging and did require a few tries for us - but with good min/maxing it shouldn't cause too much issues. What you need is a wide variety of attacks and utility. You want both physical and magical attacks and to master the environmental effects. Some heal and defense doesn't hurt either, as we're often fighting 2 versus 6+ enemies with Lone Wolves (which can get really though when one or both of you receives crowd-control effects).

[claymore]

Originally posted by Enor:

the first fight is very easy. if you having problems with that, you should definitely switch to classic or explorer mode. it gets a lot harder.

But your saying that fight is doable, despite my very low level characters. I'll try again. Like I said, I love a challange.

[claymore]

Originally posted by Woland:

It's definitely not impossible, but certainly harder with certain class combinations.
Most of your initial opponents are skeletons - which I believe are quite resistant to piercing/slashing damage. That's quite noticeable for archers and dagger classes early in the game.

I'm doing tactician mode with Lone Wolves with a friend of mine. Some fights are quite challanging and did require a few tries for us - but with good min/maxing it shouldn't cause too much issues. What you need is a wide variety of attacks and utility. You want both physical and magical attacks and to master the environmental effects. Some heal and defense doesn't hurt either, as we're often fighting 2 versus 6+ enemies with Lone Wolves (which can get really though when one or both of you receives crowd-control effects).

I do have that combination of characters you suggested. I just got to try diffrent methods. thanks

[Stabbey]

Originally posted by claymore:

Am new to DOS and I always like to start a game in the hardest difficulty.

I found your problem.

D:OS even on normal is a game which can take some time to get used to. Tactician mode is aimed more at D:OS veterans who finished the game, and and are looking for more challenge. If you didn't play D:OS and are not used to the systems, Tactician will probably be a bit too challenging. Drop it back down to Classic and save Tactician for a second playthrough.

Tactician adds extra enemies and gives them more skills and dangerous tactics, so it won't play the same way even if you've beaten the game on Classic.

I had to actually use one of my precious health potions to survive that first fight on Tactician, and didn't even find any in the tutorial dungeon. If I hadn't had one char start out with First Aid (and it's 10% health heal) I'd have been in trouble.

The biggest drawback to Lone Wolf characters and especially Dual-Lone Wolf characters is if someone gets affected by a status which makes them unable to act - there are a lot of those. Lone Wolf is considered an extra step up in difficulty, which it is why it is not really recommended for a first-time playthrough.

[Enor]

tip one for the first fight. use the environment. there is a small puddle right at the first fight. shoot lightning at it, use your lightning wand, shoot stunning arrows at it, or wateva air damage ability you have. It will react and cause a giant stun trap on the ground which will block off the 3 melee on the other side. just finish off the 2 archers in the mean time and then finish the other 3 off. that's just one method to do this fight.

[katzenkrimis]

Most noobs will rage quit the first time they get charged by a few boars.

Which is pretty early in the game.

[starkmaddness]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

Most noobs will rage quit the first time they get charged by a few boars.

Which is pretty early in the game.

Tactition mode will charge in with boars, surround you with snipers, then throw in a healing mage for good measure. If you are still not dead, it will aggro every enemy left within 100 yards.

I like it.

[WhatTheFudge]

I dont think tactical mode is designed for a first playtrhough. If you make 1-2 mistakes you are going to lose the encounters.

[DarkFenix]

Mid-way through the first map on a coop game, tactical honestly seems really easy. It's just thrown a couple more enemies into fights here and there. Perhaps I'm yet to meet some kind of difficulty spike you guys have, but so far it's been steamrolling all the way.

[Woland]

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

Mid-way through the first map on a coop game, tactical honestly seems really easy. It's just thrown a couple more enemies into fights here and there. Perhaps I'm yet to meet some kind of difficulty spike you guys have, but so far it's been steamrolling all the way.

Are you doing Lone Wolf run though?

[Kira]

I do not recommend tactician mode to a new player. You kinda need to know what some enemies are capable of, what spells to expect, and what your characters need to be puting points into.

[DarkFenix]

Originally posted by Woland:

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

Mid-way through the first map on a coop game, tactical honestly seems really easy. It's just thrown a couple more enemies into fights here and there. Perhaps I'm yet to meet some kind of difficulty spike you guys have, but so far it's been steamrolling all the way.

Are you doing Lone Wolf run though?

I'm using a LW character as per my usual habit, my friend isn't. Of course it's worth mentioning that my friend and I have completed the original game, I wouldn't recommend tactician mode for new players. It requires knowledge of game mechanics and how to level up properly.

[Vardis]

Originally posted by claymore:

Originally posted by Enor:

the first fight is very easy. if you having problems with that, you should definitely switch to classic or explorer mode. it gets a lot harder.

But your saying that fight is doable, despite my very low level characters. I'll try again. Like I said, I love a challange.

It may not be reasonably doable depending on what your starting skills and attributes are. I strongly advise against tactician mode unless you are already familiar with the game and its skills.