Self-immolation and Explode

[Dаnyøф]

Hi! I have gotten the self-immolation skill, and although it looks cool... I don't really find a good tactic where I can use it. The game says it gives you 100% fire resistance but that is not true. Where is it nice to use it and how?

Thanks!

[Silamon]

To be honest I don't really see the point in those abilities either, they seem too situational to ever be useful.

[baardvaark]

Wow, did you really just say that Ssenkrad? Disgusting. Let's hope you can see why.

As far as an appropriate response, weird that the skill doesn't give the fire resist. Need a lot of fire resist gear (use fire essences on your gear) to use those skills well.

[Narcoleptic Marshmallow]

It seems you need a very specific build focused on fire resistance alone to make these skills useful. You could try pairing explode with fire absorption shield, but it still sounds pretty pointless to have a fireball like effect that can only be used within melee range, when you could use the actuall fireball from a distance, and only use one of your skill slots.

I have been ignoring them since I started playing and have yet to miss them.

[Dаnyøф]

Thanks for your answers, but what is the meaning of this???

Originally posted by baardvaark:

Wow, did you really just say that Ssenkrad? Disgusting. Let's hope you can see why.

I was hoping for some tactic or real good use. I was trying to use it with elemental affinity, since being on fire gives you -1 AP for fire spells... at least the self-immolation. But i guess it is better for a melee-class, battlemage maybe, so when you are surrounded you just lit them on fire all of them...

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Даниоф:

Thanks for your answers, but what is the meaning of this???

Originally posted by baardvaark:

Wow, did you really just say that Ssenkrad? Disgusting. Let's hope you can see why.

I was hoping for some tactic or real good use. I was trying to use it with elemental affinity, since being on fire gives you -1 AP for fire spells... at least the self-immolation. But i guess it is better for a melee-class, battlemage maybe, so when you are surrounded you just lit them on fire all of them...

I think Elemental Affinity is only really good for water spells, since you can make it rain and stand on the puddle with no penalties, assuming none of the enemies can use lightning attacks of course.
Everything else causes status effects that require extra setup to avoid, like using avatar spells to prevent burning or stuns or whatever else. It ends up costing more ap to set up than you save by standing in the element.

[baardvaark]

Originally posted by Даниоф:

Thanks for your answers, but what is the meaning of this???

Originally posted by baardvaark:

Wow, did you really just say that Ssenkrad? Disgusting. Let's hope you can see why.

I was hoping for some tactic or real good use. I was trying to use it with elemental affinity, since being on fire gives you -1 AP for fire spells... at least the self-immolation. But i guess it is better for a melee-class, battlemage maybe, so when you are surrounded you just lit them on fire all of them...

This guy posted something really nasty, but he or a moderator deleted the post so it's out of context. Consider yourself lucky you didn't see what he said.

Elemental affinity is also good with witchcraft since it activates off of blood and with poison if you have the zombie talent. It's also good with aerothurge if you have stun immunity so you stand in the middle of a electrified puddle and basically be immune to melee enemies. Or, if you have a lot fire resist, it's good with fire. You do have to build your character right to fully take advantage of it, but it's a great, cool talent if you do.

[Ssenkrad_II]

Many people (this thread included) are quick to give advice but have not even beaten the game a single time (original or EE); look at people's profiles and look under games...

Best advice I can give you is make sure you take advice from people who know what they are talking about vs people who just like to listen to their own voice...

[Dаnyøф]

Thanks for your adive, however I dont check the profiles of every person who answers me.

Starting from the point that if you enter in mine you will find only 1 game, and that is far away from Divinity and all the games I have ever played... :)


Luckily this is a game, and not a Structural-Design decision about the construction of a bridge that can ever collapse killing hundreds of people....

I just asked it informally to discuss and debate between some other peers who have ever played it and maybe reached some conclusions that can be shared :)


P.S. I would appreciate your opinion on this matter, thanks!

[Scrubwave]

Before Larian started balancing out the game, before EE, those skills were useful because you could get your resistances to over 100%, making you absorb all their damage.
Now they limited to number of interesting things to do for the sake of "balance".