Achievements question

[Jon.Topps]

I realize this game is going to be a big investment, so I'm getting a feel for the achievements, because I want to 100% this, and RPGs tend to be quite annoying with having missable achievements. Here's what I've figured out so far for what I need to be careful of. Everything else seems to just be achievements for doing some action that's always possible, or just following through with a story part of the game. Is there anything else I need to be worried about so I don't miss it? My goal is to have all the achievements done in one playthrough, except for honor mode (I'll do that in another playthrough... in like a few years, lol)


Finish game with lone wolf trait


Drunk legionaires at beginning
Select the other and attempt to cross the bridge


Murder investigation quest
First, find the suspicious bloody knife in the hidden backroom
After finding all three clues implicating Esmeralda, talk to Aureus to have her thrown into jail. Go to Esmeralda's general store and watch the scene where a Legionnaire spawns and escorts Esmeralda away.
THEN "undeath is just the beginning" and "live undead"


Loic after trial
Locked in, need dex 11, pickpocket 6, base 4 gear 2


Lower barrier around white witch house in luculla
Peace sells achievement

[FrauBlake]

The named companion's quests achievements.

Especially Madora, this alsmost requires spoilers.
(I don't have that myself I think although I finished her quest several times.)

Since you can only have two companions with you, you have to exchange them only for their quests.

For Wolgraff e.g., it should be enough to give him the voice potion to start and immediately finish the quest. He does not have to be in the party while you finish off Imal or when you find the other ingredient in the Temple of the Dead.

[Katty Nat]

For Madora's, you're going to need control over both main characters' dialogue choices (this means you must take "No AI" for both).
Pick her up ASAP after first meeting Arhu (do not look around the Harbour; do not go after any Star Stones, just go to the Inn, get/don'tget recruited to the Fabulous 5, go through her dialogue and recruit her).
Talk to absolutely everyone you can with her in the party, so you don't miss her comments.

Whenever Madora gets a ! over her head, make sure you pick the option that challenges her views or decisions (even if they happen to be correct for the particular scenario).
Every!
Time!

Be nice to the two orcs you deal with in Cyseal (Harbour and Beach; you should know the ones... don't worry, you can still dig up the armour set for Madora, if you remember where it is or have high Perception).

Whenever dual-dialogue is triggered, save, and make sure to take the +Forgiving options.
If you ever get +Vindictive, reload.

I'd recommend to not use melee for either of your two main characters, so there is no enticement to get the Vindictive trait (makes Attacks of Opportunity pretty much always hit).

[Dragon]

Your list is definitely very incomplete OP. For examples, it's missing certain decision points in the game at which time you have to make both choices in order to get two different Achievements related to the same decision. To do that will require you to reload a saved game immediately after you made the first one choice (since otherwise you cannot also make the opposite choice, and thus will lose out on one Achievement every time you fail to reload). I can think of at least two examples of that type of thing off the top of my head, which are not accounted for in your OP, but there might be more too.

And as others have said, Madora/Sister of Mercy Achievement is ludicrously convoluted. You almost have to be akin to a brain surgeon to get that one. No way you are getting that unless you follow a Spoiler-filled guide about it throughout the game, and are extremely familiar with the guide before you actually play the game or reach the points that the guide discusses.

Another thing: the Lone Wolf trait one is easy. You don't actually have to use the trait at any point in the game where actual gameplay is still relevant. You can literally just give yourself Lone Wolf after the final boss fight (as long as you have saved a point that is available to invest into it), when no more enemies are left in the game. And you'll still get the Achievement. That's what I did. LOL.

Your OP is also missing other Achievements that can certainly be missed and can't be picked up later if you do, like putting out the fire at the start, and I think also the ones related to the sailors who are affected by the fire.

[FrauBlake]

Yeah, the ship on fire can easily be forgotten (unwillingly) by players in a first playthrough.

I think there's also an achievement for Sam's quest and there might be one for the animal quest in Luculla, which requires the Pet Pal talent.
There might also be an achievement for using Murphy in the murder quest but I'm not sure about that. And I'm also not sure if the rabbit in Hiberheim is tied to an achievement.

Pet Pal is necessary for all achievements and other than Lone Wolf, you have to get it and get the quests done before you enter the 'Gnik Barc Nni' because you cannot get back from there any longer. Pet Pal is also - like Lone Wolf - only usable on main characters, not on companions.

[Jon.Topps]

Awesome thanks for the help! So a few questions to make sure I don't screw up.

Originally posted by Natty Cat:

Whenever dual-dialogue is triggered, save, and make sure to take the +Forgiving options.
If you ever get +Vindictive, reload.
I'd recommend to not use melee for either of your two main characters, so there is no enticement to get the Vindictive trait (makes Attacks of Opportunity pretty much always hit).

Is this just for the thing where Madora forgives someone? Do I need to get +forgiving in every dual dialogue time? Or just NOT get +vindictive? And am I safe in assuming you mean this only for Madora?

Originally posted by FrauBlake:

Pet Pal is necessary for all achievements and other than Lone Wolf, you have to get it and get the quests done before you enter the 'Gnik Barc Nni' because you cannot get back from there any longer. Pet Pal is also - like Lone Wolf - only usable on main characters, not on companions.

Any idea what all the quests are that require pet pal? I picked that as one of my things for my one main character to make sure I could do them all.

[FrauBlake]

Originally posted by Jon.Topps:

Originally posted by FrauBlake:

Pet Pal is necessary for all achievements and other than Lone Wolf, you have to get it and get the quests done before you enter the 'Gnik Barc Nni' because you cannot get back from there any longer. Pet Pal is also - like Lone Wolf - only usable on main characters, not on companions.

Any idea what all the quests are that require pet pal? I picked that as one of my things for my one main character to make sure I could do them all.

Well, you can pick up Sam's quest from Sam in the King Crag Inn.

The Luculla quest is with the animals in Luculla forest, not far from the Goblin Village or Archibald the Troll. (The quest is named "Roy's Menagerie" if my memory is correct.)

Murphy can be part of the murder quest, but to be honest, I doubt he's involved with any achievement since it's only one of several ways to solve the quest. Same probably for Jinxica in Hunter's Edge.

Speaking of Archibald the troll: I think that I recently read about an achievement "You made Archibald king of the trolls". I have forgotten how I got that but it must have been that Archibald was still alive when the troll king died.


If you really want to do all possible achievements, you'll probably have to look them up and then do some (or a lot of) planning. And as mentioned, you might have to save/reload at some points since a couple of achievements are mutually exclusive.
Luckily, achievements stay forever once gained, they are not rolled back with a reload.

[v0]

Originally posted by FrauBlake:

Yeah, the ship on fire can easily be forgotten (unwillingly) by players in a first playthrough.

getting that in early game gave first sign to me larian was onto something potentially great with dos 1:)

[Katty Nat]

Originally posted by Jon.Topps:

Is this just for the thing where Madora forgives someone? Do I need to get +forgiving in every dual dialogue time? Or just NOT get +vindictive? And am I safe in assuming you mean this only for Madora?

Not getting +vindictive means getting +forgiving, as these are opposite traits in the game. So your question is a bit weird. Yes you need to get +forgiving every time, and never get +vindictive.
This is specifically for Madora's achievement.

The idea is to demonstate kindness and forgiveness to Madora, so you need to stack +Forgiving on both main characters, and never slip up.
I've had one forgiving and one vindictive before, and even if I go in with the forgiving character first, Madora is not willing to forgive that certain enemy.
Both must be 100% forgiving.

There's a reason Madora's achievement is the least obtained, globally, alongside Honour Mode. Do anything wrong and you won't get it.

[Jon.Topps]

Originally posted by Natty Cat:

For Madora's, you're going to need control over both main characters' dialogue choices (this means you must take "No AI" for both).
Pick her up ASAP after first meeting Arhu (do not look around the Harbour; do not go after any Star Stones, just go to the Inn, get/don'tget recruited to the Fabulous 5, go through her dialogue and recruit her).
Talk to absolutely everyone you can with her in the party, so you don't miss her comments.

Whenever Madora gets a ! over her head, make sure you pick the option that challenges her views or decisions (even if they happen to be correct for the particular scenario).
Every!
Time!

Be nice to the two orcs you deal with in Cyseal (Harbour and Beach; you should know the ones... don't worry, you can still dig up the armour set for Madora, if you remember where it is or have high Perception).

Whenever dual-dialogue is triggered, save, and make sure to take the +Forgiving options.
If you ever get +Vindictive, reload.

I'd recommend to not use melee for either of your two main characters, so there is no enticement to get the Vindictive trait (makes Attacks of Opportunity pretty much always hit).

So I just said don't kill the orc, I didn't get +forgiving, instead, I got +romantic. I just want to make sure, did I do something wrong? I don't want to go the whole game and find out a messed up at the beginning, lol.

[redgreen999]

Originally posted by Jon.Topps:

Originally posted by Natty Cat:

For Madora's, you're going to need control over both main characters' dialogue choices (this means you must take "No AI" for both).
Pick her up ASAP after first meeting Arhu (do not look around the Harbour; do not go after any Star Stones, just go to the Inn, get/don'tget recruited to the Fabulous 5, go through her dialogue and recruit her).
Talk to absolutely everyone you can with her in the party, so you don't miss her comments.

Whenever Madora gets a ! over her head, make sure you pick the option that challenges her views or decisions (even if they happen to be correct for the particular scenario).
Every!
Time!

Be nice to the two orcs you deal with in Cyseal (Harbour and Beach; you should know the ones... don't worry, you can still dig up the armour set for Madora, if you remember where it is or have high Perception).

Whenever dual-dialogue is triggered, save, and make sure to take the +Forgiving options.
If you ever get +Vindictive, reload.

I'd recommend to not use melee for either of your two main characters, so there is no enticement to get the Vindictive trait (makes Attacks of Opportunity pretty much always hit).

So I just said don't kill the orc, I didn't get +forgiving, instead, I got +romantic. I just want to make sure, did I do something wrong? I don't want to go the whole game and find out a messed up at the beginning, lol.

Your fine with romantic. Its only vindictive outcomes that you have to avoid. All traits have a pairing that go together but are exact opposits. Forgiving is paired with Vindictive. Romantic is paired with Practical (iirc)

[Jon.Topps]

But isn't the orc encounter supposed to give forgiving?

[v0]

Originally posted by Jon.Topps:

But isn't the orc encounter supposed to give forgiving?

which orc encounter? one about orc-human romance sure gives romantic.

[Katty Nat]

Nothing in what I said was that encountering orcs would give +Forgiving.
I just advised to be "nice" to orcs, and not get +Vindictive.

For the specifics, "nice" gives +Romantic from one and +Spiritual from the other.