How to get Independent options?

[Fall]

Can anyone tell me how do I get "Independent" options to be able to complete the mission of "Bairdotr", so far I've seen only three places that have this option, I started now in the forest Luculla; My two characters are "Obedient";

Dungeon at the beginning of the game: I got it
Mendius: I lost
2 drunk at the beginning of the game: I lost

Besides these options, what other options exist, currently I have 2 points in "Obedient";

[rn_archl0rd]

During dialogues if you choose not to follow orders then you get independent when the numbr of times exceeds the times you chose to follow orders or to not think independently.

[Cirilla Fiona Elen Riannon]

Im struggling with this now, the totem at the Goblin village asks you 3 questions, the First questions can give you Independence, If you didnt Attack the drunk Guards at the beginning the whole village will Fight you, If you did and answer the 2 other questions right they will Not fight

[Cirilla Fiona Elen Riannon]

And the imp yox who is afraid of his master can give you Independence If you say to him to stay and brew the potion that will make him want to fight His master

[BOT]

Originally posted by Cirilla Fiona Elen Riannon:

Im struggling with this now, the totem at the Goblin village asks you 3 questions, the First questions can give you Independence, If you didnt Attack the drunk Guards at the beginning the whole village will Fight you, If you did and answer the 2 other questions right they will Not fight

the goblin one you can sneak bye and go to that hatch in the back of the village and say talk to that goblin shaman .. he will say welcome the stranger..

[BOT]

Originally posted by Fall:

Can anyone tell me how do I get "Independent" options to be able to complete the mission of "Bairdotr", so far I've seen only three places that have this option, I started now in the forest Luculla; My two characters are "Obedient";

Dungeon at the beginning of the game: I got it
Mendius: I lost
2 drunk at the beginning of the game: I lost

Besides these options, what other options exist, currently I have 2 points in "Obedient";

https://divinityoriginalsin.wiki.fextralife.com/Traits
here is the wiki page..