Whats about Dawn of the New World? Is it include?

[Voland]

If not... is it worth at all?

[Zunnoab #931]

I like it but it had a mixed reception. I hope they port it too.

It is not included.

[Mr. Manual]

The combat is fun, like any Tales game. It is one of the weaker entries in the series, though.

[Voland]

so i do not really being sad. thx

[JoshDJX]

I hope it does come to Steam. I liked Dawn of the New World a lot more than Symphonia 1. <3

[khdrake]

As previously mentioned it is not included, but despite a slightly better battle sytem that just got better in tales of the abyss (PS2 or 3DS) and tales of Vesperia (xbox360) the overall story was weaker than Tales of Symphonia itself (my opinion sorry Zunnoab #931). Personally, if you're interested in Dawn of the New World I'd suggest just reading the wiki. That being said if you have one of the previous mentioned consoles I'd try one of the above, especially Tales of Vesperia which was their first true HD game, to my knowledge, and had a wonderful story. Finally, yes, definitely still buy Symphonia as it is one of the best, if not the best, game in the series with wonderful worlds, characters, and plot.

[Zunnoab #931]

I don't think the story is better I just have nostalgia for it since I played it first. I do hope they port it.

[Bob Rooney]

I'd buy dawn of the new world.... haven't played it before and i don't own a wii... so a port would be appreciated

[AceMan#1]

They should have made this tales of symphonia port to allow the main player to be able to move their character anywhere on the battefield instead of just back and forth movement. I mean come on this game is not limited on hardware anymore for years because of how far hardware technology has come this tales of symphonia game could be totally redone if Namco spent some quality time on it and made the combat not just back and forth movement and added a couple new sidequests throught the game and they could even port it to the wii u or wait until the next system after the wii u handheld etc since the best tales of game that many claim including myself needs a serious work over since it is only backtracking by 20 or so years by reducing it's fps to 30. This is 2016 Namco make a freaking game right an dif you can't then put tales of symphonia classic on the title if you can't make the game run at 60 fps which tales of zestiria was able to do with batman fix. So yeah namco if you redid this game you could make way more money and charge 60 bucks if you redid it to run perfectly with a few new things added into it. Namco you fail to make any good tales games anymore and wreck them with backtracking your games to make them older and older oldschooling games. The lastest tales of zestiria had hours and hours of backtrack which became extinct in most games ever since the ps3 and xbox 360 came out. What is next I wonder Besteria having even more backtracking as if tales of zestiria was not enough I spent over 400 hours in tales of zestira so far and I am still not at the end of the game. these games used to be enjoyable so why is it that they ended the last good game of tales of vesperia I wonder hmm I don't know. Anyhow good gaming everyone and have a good day.

[AceMan#1]

Originally posted by Bob Rooney:

I'd buy dawn of the new world.... haven't played it before and i don't own a wii... so a port would be appreciated

I played it on the wii and the main character emil in the english voice has a 11 or 12 year voice that sounds like he is whining with every word he say's until he enters his other persona mode which makes his voice turn into a 24+ year old young man to man, very deep then like not quite treble but I can't say where just much deeper. Anyhow Emil is very whining 1 quarter into the first part of the game and he also has no willpower to do anything so he either runs away from trouble or does not stand up to any kind of danger even when he is getting beat up. There is a couple parts in the game that are way more child like than tales of symphonia but other than that it is a fun game. It has a monster capture in it exactly like throwing a pokeball and hoping it will be caught but with the choice of what chance which ends up in this game making some very hard monsters take hours to catch like a dragon later on etc from the very begining of the game. you can only control Emil or your second partner in the game that you get very early on in the game and you can not control any monsters in the game. You can use mystic arts in this game, the game is way shorter than tales of symphonia and also not as fun as the first game as dawn of the new world was only intended to be a very very rare Namco treat to tide people over for new games being release on the wii because at the time I heard they were behind on releasing a few so called wii games at the time. So yes this game was made faster and was only made to be a filler to know what wen't on after tales of symphonia. Also dawn of the new world gets very boring after you complete 2 full playthroughs of the entire game which I did on the wii and same on the ps3 because they made the graphics better so I had to force myself to play through the same game on the ps3 with better graphics only with 0 content added to it. Trust me it is worth buying and playing it but I warn you it will get old for you after 2 playthroughs because the lack of content in dawn is very limited so after 2 playthroughs the only thing you will have left is collecting more monsters since there is no collectors book in dawn and very few side quests and about 3 or 4 or less minigames and one of them was fishing to catch monsters in a lake and winning one single item from what I remember was not even useful later in the game and no it was not a gel it was something very lame. So anyhow long story short buy it physical copy on the wii or the ps3 for 2 playthroughs and then sell it. Just make sure to buy it at 40 dollars max or less as any higher than that is not even worth the lack of content going into this filler up let me know what happened 2 years later game. Oh and another thing half of the game or more has Lloyd Irving as a traitor which I will not spoil and tell you if that is true or not. Think pokemon with swords like that one ds game that had pokemon in the old warrior fighting day's that I forget the name of but yeah it's sort of like that just a touch differen't with some awsome epic cutscenes of emil when he enters his other persona.

[Prinny]

damn of the new world was so an insult to the tales series that i was not even able to play more than 2 hours on it, it's even the first game i ever return. really, 2 characters and others are just useless monsters.
No world map.
No charism at all for the main characters.
that's enough, it need a lot to hate a game, but that's just too much

[Zunnoab #931]

Originally posted by Prinny:

damn of the new world was so an insult to the tales series that i was not even able to play more than 2 hours on it, it's even the first game i ever return. really, 2 characters and others are just useless monsters.
No world map.
No charism at all for the main characters.
that's enough, it need a lot to hate a game, but that's just too much

If you didn't play more than two hours several of those observations were impossible to make.

I see the trend though for sure: people that expect the game to revolve around the original cast were disappointed. It was my first Tales and I actually quite liked the monster raising, though I admit they shouldn't have teased the original cast as playable if they were going to level cap them to 50 at the end. Going to ToS after DotNW I also liked Emil's fighting style more than Lloyd, though granted he's pretty darn overpowered with air combos.

Plus, it has Tenebrae. I really hope they bring it to Steam.

[Aurumai]

DotNW is an absolutely terrible game, and I don't consider it a part of the Tales series. -Some- fans of the series enjoy the game, but the overwhelming majority of us were disgusted by the story, characters, gameplay, etc.

If you haven't played Tales of Symphonia or you weren't much of a fan of it, then you might want to give it a go. But if you really enjoyed Symphonia, I'd skip it. The fact that they released a game like DotNW muddies the water whether I consider it a real sequel or not.

[Pook and Pie]

DotNW's story played out like terrible fan fiction, with cringe-inducing lines like, "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality" tossed about all through the dialogue (Symphonia's dialogue was translated in an incredibly childish manner, but DotNW somehow was worse than its predecessor).

The combat in DotNW is on point though. Fast and incredibly entertaining. I would say don't avoid playing it just due to its combat. Though, it has been surpassed now, since the game is over eight years old and improvements to the combat system have been made in the main series entries.

[Zunnoab #931]

Originally posted by Aurumai:

DotNW is an absolutely terrible game, and I don't consider it a part of the Tales series. -Some- fans of the series enjoy the game, but the overwhelming majority of us were disgusted by the story, characters, gameplay, etc.

If you haven't played Tales of Symphonia or you weren't much of a fan of it, then you might want to give it a go. But if you really enjoyed Symphonia, I'd skip it. The fact that they released a game like DotNW muddies the water whether I consider it a real sequel or not.

Overwhelming majority? Not in reality. Certainly the game has vocal people that dislike it, but vocal people do not make a majority.

Not even Metroid: Other M has an overwhelming majority that dislike it. It still tends to get overall positive ratings even though its reception is extremely mixed, even by people that enjoyed it. DotNW has nothing on Other M.

[Aurumai]

Originally posted by Zunnoab #931:

Overwhelming majority? Not in reality. Certainly the game has vocal people that dislike it, but vocal people do not make a majority.

Perhaps I should have elaborated more. When I said "fans", I was generally speaking about the playerbase who are indeed -fanatical- about ToS (of which, the overwhelming majority definitely did NOT take kindly to DotNW). Most of us who absolutely love ToS felt that it set the bar extremely high and that DotNW didn't come close to it.

Also, I should've mentioned that the first sentence in my post was coming from the perspective of someone who has a fanatical love for ToS. The point is that ToS proactively ruined DotNW because it is simply too different.

DotNW wouldn't necessarily be a bad game for someone who isn't super nitpicky about ToS, hasn't played it, or just doesn't care about how different it is, which is why I gave the go-ahead for people like that.