Is there a patch to fix the missing/skipped dialogue, and similar issues that detract from the story and characters?

[Nesspurr]

I've heard some pretty harsh things with regards to the dialogue that gets skipped in story cutscenes and other issues that interrupt key moments, and I'd like to know if there's been any work done on a patch that can resolve this issue. I'm basically asking if there's a way to play with the added QoL and balancing changes made after the Gamecube release, but without the problems that come with those versions, or at the very least reduced as much as possible.

[Zeno]

Do you have any examples of this actually happening? I've played the game many times, the story is not impacted in any significant way by bugs/issues

[etch]

Originally posted by Zeno:

Do you have any examples of this actually happening? I've played the game many times, the story is not impacted in any significant way by bugs/issues

I was watching a video on Symphonia earlier today and it was brought up. It is talked about at the 8:02 and 10:56 timecodes. Also talked about at 12:31 in regards to this being an issue still on the recent console remaster releases.
https://youtu.be/turK637GQic

[Zeno]

There is no patch for most of these issues as far as I am aware.
There are a couple very specific fixes you can use, such as the quiet audio fix, TSFix, a mod that plays japanese voices over skits so it isn't just complete silence, and I think there's a guide on fixing the Zelos Steam achievement bug. All of these are in the guides section if you scroll through it.

That's all I've come across after years of being subscribed to this forum unfortunately.

The one really bad example he previewed in the video at 8:02 with Raine, that's only going to happen if she is your highest affection I believe, so most players wont even come across it. There really isn't that many of these immersion breaking moments, at least.

[Aifread]

There's one major important story point involving Regal that's jumbled like that unfortunately.

It's a complicated and multi-faceted issue that would be a bit of work to fix. The reason it happens is because the original Gamecube localization had to add more textboxes to accommodate the English text which generally doesn't compact as nicely as Japanese text does. Where the split textbox was voiced, there are naturally two voice clips for the English as well. Further confounding this is that there are actually more voiced story lines in the localization compared to the Japanese version because they made use of the extra disc space they had from skipping out on voicing the skits. All of this wasn't properly accommodated for when the PS3 version was localized so certain scenes like this get jumbled because the game is looking for textboxes and voice clips based on where they are in the Japanese version.

[Nesspurr]

Originally posted by Aifread:

There's one major important story point involving Regal that's jumbled like that unfortunately.

Would you say this detracts from the game all that much? I want my experience with ToS to be the best possible, so if you think the skipped dialogue and this moment are that important then I think I'll just stick to the GC version

[Zeno]

Originally posted by PrinceOfPickles, SultanOfSauce:

Originally posted by Aifread:

There's one major important story point involving Regal that's jumbled like that unfortunately.

Would you say this detracts from the game all that much? I want my experience with ToS to be the best possible, so if you think the skipped dialogue and this moment are that important then I think I'll just stick to the GC version

Honestly, GC for your first playthrough might be worth it given your fear of immersion breaking. Aifread bringing up that moment reminded me how I would have been pretty upset if it was my first playthrough. You could switch over to this version after a GC playthrough since you'd only really have the NG+ content to get to afterwords.

[Aifread]

Originally posted by PrinceOfPickles, SultanOfSauce:

Originally posted by Aifread:

There's one major important story point involving Regal that's jumbled like that unfortunately.

Would you say this detracts from the game all that much? I want my experience with ToS to be the best possible, so if you think the skipped dialogue and this moment are that important then I think I'll just stick to the GC version

I'd say it detracts pretty heavily. Either GC as a first play with this version for NG+ or just watch the Gamecube scene on youtube when it comes up.

[GamerXT]

What story section with Regal though ? Or is there simply one story section with them.

And is the texture quality also the PS2 version, or they used the GC`s textures for this...

[Asra]

Originally posted by gamerXT3:

What story section with Regal though ? Or is there simply one story section with them.

And is the texture quality also the PS2 version, or they used the GC`s textures for this...

When he shows Presea the grave.

[GamerXT]

Is that also with Japanese selected ? And does other glitches where people say the wrong lines, also happen with the Japanese voice option ? Or simply with the English voices......

[Asra]

Originally posted by gamerXT3:

Is that also with Japanese selected ? And does other glitches where people say the wrong lines, also happen with the Japanese voice option ? Or simply with the English voices......

Idk. I'm one of the rare people that don't like the japanese dub.

[GamerXT]

I would also prefer to use the English dub, since the voice acting seems nice. It simply would be great if the issues where officially fixed though.

Sort of odd that the people who control Namco, arnt fans of their own games....

[Aifread]

The problem exists in both languages because of the issue with there being more textboxes than were in the Japanese version.

[GamerXT]

Including characters saying the wrong lines ? And yea, I know the deleted lines is for both languages since there`d still be subs for it otherwise.