Did she?

[wayninja]

She being eve... Did she kill her parents?

The clips mention food poisoning and Hannah or Eve (can't remember which) outright say it was death caps.

There is also mention that the parents taught Hannah to identify these mushrooms, so it couldn't have been accidental. The only question is; Did they commit suicide, or were they poisoned?

I'm assuming they were poisoned, but I haven't been able to figure out a motive other than Eve being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy and maybe jealous that she had to remain hidden and "didn't exist" and maybe resenting that, or turning the parents into evil witches in her fantasy like mind... this is pretty thin though since eve seems to be fairly rational/stable towards the end of the clips... she maybe a bit nutty, but she doesn't seem homicidal.

[binakalgo]

I think they made a mistake or it was suicide for a completely unknow reason.

Both, Hannah and Eve, suspect that there was foul play and both mention how their dad was an expert on mushrooms and both find strange their dead, and neither of them had motives or reasons to kill their parents, nor they looked frankly homicidal.

Then again, Simon was dead, and maybe both Hannah and Eve were the same crazy person, so...

[wayninja]

Definitely not the same person, the tattoo (as well as the bruise) proves that.

And both of them "suspecting" that there was foul play doesn't mean much since they both lied many times, it wouldn't be hard to feign that.

Still, that little detail, which seems somewhat important is sorta glossed over in a strange way.

[binakalgo]

It wasn't of the interest of the detectives, as the case was closed.

Also, I feel like they both suspect each other about it or they won't even mention it. Maybe Hannah suspects Eve because she was living right there with them and it is fankly strange that she didn't really noticed in so many days., maybe Eve suspect Hannah because at the end, Hannah kept the house to live with Simon.

As with most of the game, we'll have to come with our own conclusions.

I think that storywise it was an accident, and in the narrative, it was a red hearring.

[Saraneth]

When Eve recounted Florence's death, she expressed no shock or sorrow at losing her mother (even if only her mother figure). In fact, she was quite quick-witted in burning Florence's diary and making her way unseen to Hannah's.

Eve was present and living in the house with her parents died, and at that time remained hidden from absolutely everyone.

Although there is no evidence that Eve killed her parents, the opportunities and motivations were there. The author could also be playing up the idea that twins share inclinations. (There is some evidence that anti-social behavior is shared among twins, even when raised separately, for example.)

[wayninja]

What motivation?

[Saraneth]

Killing Florence: Desire to be with her reflection and share in her adventures outside of her home.

Killing her parents: Desire to walk freely through the house, and having no more usefulness for her parents.

If Eve is also a killer, this highlights another difference between the two. Eve, the more laid back and relaxed, kills dispassionately and with purpose. Hannah, the more neurotic of the two, commits a crime of passion, and even talks about her fantasy of killing Eve because of her feeling at the time, which passed.

[Vive]

it maybe a wild a goose chase but there is another possibility worth considering that the game creator tosses into our face that is either a red herring or the truth. That a thin non preganant girl snuck into the house via the catflap and poisoned the parents. Which leads to the question wait but the preganant one was living with Simon at the time. Then you wonder was she or was she hiding in the atitic? Was she really pregnant? (The parents draggeed the girl claiming to be Hannah that day it might of not been the right one)

Food for thought.

[sfnhltb]

With Florence, Eve either planned it, or was very quick witted to take advantage of the accident so thoroughly while covering her tracks/existence (or at least the most explicit details of her history) by burning the diary before leaving. Given her talk of feeling imprisoned while her "reflection" was off having adventures, that was very suggestive to me it was no accident.

And her planning of their cover up of Simon's murder upon finding Hannah in shock is somewhat suggestive of her being no stranger to such situations, and her continued quest to try and re-establish their childhood situation of being a pair when Hannah breaks the rules and ends their duality/sharing seems to set a pattern where she is willing to go to extremes to return things to how they were.

This kind of supports the possibility of her poisoning their parents, given it leads fairly predictably to Hannah moving back into the house, with Eve is back in the attic - back to the way things were, which can't happen while Hannah is living with Simon at his parents. And I am fairly sure at this point she is still stuck with her "home" as the attic, but no longer can pretend to be Hannah, which presumably is a situation she wants to change seeing as Hannah and Simon sounded like they would be living with his parents for a while yet due to financial limitations.

There is of course even one further speculation you could go along these lines - while nothing is mentioned I can think of about physical evidence of this, but Eve several times talks about Hannah getting pregnant as messing up their mirror/reflection thing. So what if the miscarriage wasn't bad luck/chance, but rather something Eve engineered?

I guess you already have three possible murders, so a fourth is plausible. Still from a narrative point of view the other possible murders are all fleshed out enough to raise the idea of foul play (particularly the parents and all the mushroom related clips), whereas although the miscarriage is mentioned quite a few times, nothing about the cause or medical details were mentioned I can think of, which you would think would probably be at least touched on if it was intended as another possible victim, rather than only being suggested by just a few clips of Eve's resentment.

Also if she were that far gone, surely she would have already earlier have had similar ideas about getting rid of Simon when Hannah starts breaking the rules with him (Eve getting caught by Simon "cheating" with another boy would probably have caused them to break up, and given Hannah's view of Eve as slutty could have been written off as an accident rather than deliberate sabotage).

[Wilphart]

EDIT: I thought about it and my original theory needs to be amended. I think that the fact they mentioned it to the cops when it cast suspicion on themselves, or Hannah - since both personalities claimed to be Hannah at the time - makes me doubt that they did it. I think they were setting up a plan B in case the alibi didn't work, but they didn't know which personality would get arrested by the cops.

[Turric4n]

Eve poisoned the parents to get the house for them to live in it as they couldnt be together at simons parents place.

[Evileve]

Maybe she just poisoned the parents to experiment and see if she would get away with it?

[chris_x.]

It's defenitely the same person. The whole story with being taken by the nurse and then after her death both lived under the same roof and nobody ( I mean the parents ) noticed a thing? It's all made up. On top of that, when they supposedly run away to see a concert and then ened up at the police station, when the parents came to take one of them - how come the police didn't make a fuss about the other one? they were twins after all.
It's a clear case when one person tries to make an alibi, she wants you to believe she's either mentally ill or there is a bad twin - which isn't the case here. For the whole game you see the same person.

[XNam360]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von chris_x.:

It's defenitely the same person.

No, because Hannah's face was bruised and Eve's wasn't.

[wayninja]

I addressed this in the 3rd post. There's also a tattoo that pretty definitely proves that they are not the same person.

[chris_x.]

She killed her husband cos she caught him cheating on her. You may call it a homicide committed of passion. The rest of the story is just trying to get away with the murder.
The final SB's question about whether Sarah understands why her mother did what she did wasn't about the murder itself but the fact that she tried to mislead the police with 'her story'.
The only reason for all of it was Sarah, her mother was already pregnant when she killed her husband and didn't want her child to born in prison and then to be taken away from her.