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Top 10 hardest bosses. :D
So. I have had some work to try and rank the top 10 hardest bosses in the game.
1: Absolute Radiance
2: Pure Vessel
3: Nightmare King grimm
4: Radiance

I am not sure where to put the Hollow knight, maybe at 5th or 6th...
What do you guys think? What is the rest of the list? Any suggestions?
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Darc Vader 7. okt. 2018 kl. 10.02 
I wouldn’t put Hollow Knight that high; he’s meant to be easy since you have to go through him every time you face Radiance.

I’d add Grey Prince Zote, Lost Kin, Hornet Sentinel and maybe normal Grimm to the list though.
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I wouldn’t put Hollow Knight that high; he’s meant to be easy since you have to go through him every time you face Radiance.

I’d add Grey Prince Zote, Lost Kin, Hornet Sentinel and maybe normal Grimm to the list though.
In what order tho? :)
Jdr_ 7. okt. 2018 kl. 12.14 
I tried 5th pantheon and only was stopped by Pure Vessel, so from 1 to 10 is Pure Vessel (f*ck you big brother).
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I wouldn’t put Hollow Knight that high; he’s meant to be easy since you have to go through him every time you face Radiance.

I’d add Grey Prince Zote, Lost Kin, Hornet Sentinel and maybe normal Grimm to the list though.
Lost Kin is easy though. If anything, it needs a buff.

Grimm is only intimidating if you don't know what you're doing, his patterns aren't hard to learn, and once learned, he becomes very easy.

Grey Prince I'll agree with. His patterns have a lot of inconsistancies, which makes learning difficult.

Hornet Sentinel, isn't too bad, but still probably in the top 15 or so.

I suppose Pure Vessel can be on the 'top 10' list, since its one of those bosses that usually takes a lot of practice to beat for the first time. However, PV did not take me very long to learn compared to Nightmare King, and I beat it much more consistantly.

If we consider the Dream Warriors for the list, we should probably only consider their Ascended fights, because their normal fights are more of a nuisance than an actual challenge. As such, Markoth will be ranked the 2nd hardest boss for me.
Sist redigert av Aeternalis the Abyssal Alchemist; 7. okt. 2018 kl. 13.54
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I wouldn’t put Hollow Knight that high; he’s meant to be easy since you have to go through him every time you face Radiance.

I’d add Grey Prince Zote, Lost Kin, Hornet Sentinel and maybe normal Grimm to the list though.
Lost Kin is easy though. If anything, it needs a buff.

Grimm is only intimidating if you don't know what you're doing, his patterns aren't hard to learn, and once learned, he becomes very easy.

Grey Prince I'll agree with. His patterns have a lot of inconsistancies, which makes learning difficult.

Hornet Sentinel, isn't too bad, but still probably in the top 15 or so.

I suppose Pure Vessel can be on the 'top 10' list, since its one of those bosses that usually takes a lot of practice to beat for the first time. However, PV did not take me very long to learn compared to Nightmare King, and I beat it much more consistantly.

If we consider the Dream Warriors for the list, we should probably only consider their Ascended fights, because their normal fights are more of a nuisance than an actual challenge. As such, Markoth will be ranked the 2nd hardest boss for me.
Acended modes don't count overall.
As they are for those that want a real challenge and not actually their base bosses needed to beat for example the final ending.
Onni 8. okt. 2018 kl. 9.01 
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Lost Kin is easy though. If anything, it needs a buff.

Grimm is only intimidating if you don't know what you're doing, his patterns aren't hard to learn, and once learned, he becomes very easy.

Grey Prince I'll agree with. His patterns have a lot of inconsistancies, which makes learning difficult.

Hornet Sentinel, isn't too bad, but still probably in the top 15 or so.

I suppose Pure Vessel can be on the 'top 10' list, since its one of those bosses that usually takes a lot of practice to beat for the first time. However, PV did not take me very long to learn compared to Nightmare King, and I beat it much more consistantly.

If we consider the Dream Warriors for the list, we should probably only consider their Ascended fights, because their normal fights are more of a nuisance than an actual challenge. As such, Markoth will be ranked the 2nd hardest boss for me.
Acended modes don't count overall.
As they are for those that want a real challenge and not actually their base bosses needed to beat for example the final ending.
If we are talking about embrace the void as the actual ending they are needed in a way. You have to fight every boss with there ascended buffs like changes to the arena etc. They just don't do double damage
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Acended modes don't count overall.
As they are for those that want a real challenge and not actually their base bosses needed to beat for example the final ending.
If we are talking about embrace the void as the actual ending they are needed in a way. You have to fight every boss with there ascended buffs like changes to the arena etc. They just don't do double damage
Isn't that just the last Pantheon?
I just meant that it don't count with double damage, as that make some bosses that really aren't difficult at all really hard (due to much coming at you at the same time).
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If we are talking about embrace the void as the actual ending they are needed in a way. You have to fight every boss with there ascended buffs like changes to the arena etc. They just don't do double damage
Isn't that just the last Pantheon?
I just meant that it don't count with double damage, as that make some bosses that really aren't difficult at all really hard (due to much coming at you at the same time).

The easiest way to rank difficulty would be to be based on how hard it is to avoid getting hit.
I've beaten every boss on at least Ascended, except for 3; Markoth, Sly, and AR. So those would be my top 3 based on that ranking system, since I haven't even unlocked Radiant for them yet.

EDIT:

Pantheon of the Master: early-game difficulty
Pantheon of the Artist: mid-game difficulty
Pantheon of the Sage: late-game difficulty
Pantheon of the Knight: end-game difficulty
Pantheon of Hallownest: post-game difficulty
...
or at least, I think that was the intention.
Sist redigert av Aeternalis the Abyssal Alchemist; 8. okt. 2018 kl. 17.25
Appaguchee 8. okt. 2018 kl. 15.20 
Absolute Radiance
Pure Vessel
Nightmare King Grimm
Nailsage sly
Grey prince zote
Radiance
Nosk (suprisingly I know. Probably because I wandered in accidentally with a level 1 nail and few charsm)
Hornet Sentinel
Soul Tyrant (only super hard dream boss for me. Still can't easily do)
ASCENDED Markoth (he's super easy in normal mode, but was the most common run ender for the pantheon of hallownest)
ASCENDED Collector (Self explanitory)
Amthyric 8. okt. 2018 kl. 19.53 
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Absolute Radiance
Pure Vessel
Nightmare King Grimm
Nailsage sly
Grey prince zote
Radiance
Nosk (suprisingly I know. Probably because I wandered in accidentally with a level 1 nail and few charsm)
Hornet Sentinel
Soul Tyrant (only super hard dream boss for me. Still can't easily do)
ASCENDED Markoth (he's super easy in normal mode, but was the most common run ender for the pantheon of hallownest)
ASCENDED Collector (Self explanitory)

Me: plz die, man
Collector: WUHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAA! woooheeha!


I haven't gotten to the AR or PV, but I am currently working through NKG. Radiance has to be up there. You may be able to throw in Beast Tamer due to the whole Trial of Fools thing.

From my experience (boss alone, attuned), it would have to be something like this (assume endgame gear and perks):

1) Radiance
2) Nightmare King (Grimm)
3) Nailsage Sly
4) Nailmasters Oro and Mato
5) Grey Prince Zote
6) Paintmaster Sheo
7) White Defender
8) Watch Knights
9, 10) Galein, Hive Knight, etc?

I'm not entirely sure, though.
Onni 8. okt. 2018 kl. 20.44 
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Absolute Radiance
Pure Vessel
Nightmare King Grimm
Nailsage sly
Grey prince zote
Radiance
Nosk (suprisingly I know. Probably because I wandered in accidentally with a level 1 nail and few charsm)
Hornet Sentinel
Soul Tyrant (only super hard dream boss for me. Still can't easily do)
ASCENDED Markoth (he's super easy in normal mode, but was the most common run ender for the pantheon of hallownest)
ASCENDED Collector (Self explanitory)

Me: plz die, man
Collector: WUHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAA! woooheeha!


I haven't gotten to the AR or PV, but I am currently working through NKG. Radiance has to be up there. You may be able to throw in Beast Tamer due to the whole Trial of Fools thing.

From my experience (boss alone, attuned), it would have to be something like this (assume endgame gear and perks):

1) Radiance
2) Nightmare King (Grimm)
3) Nailsage Sly
4) Nailmasters Oro and Mato
5) Grey Prince Zote
6) Paintmaster Sheo
7) White Defender
8) Watch Knights
9, 10) Galein, Hive Knight, etc?

I'm not entirely sure, though.
I agree with part of your lia except for Radiance and Sheo and Oro and Mato.Sheo has highly telegraphed attacks. Oro and Mato are easier watcher knights. And Radiance was not easy but definitely was never harder or even close to being harder than NKG for me. Honestly lifeblood Traitor Lord would be maybe like 5 on my list since he ended multiple of my steel soul runs. But this is merely my opinion
Sist redigert av Onni; 8. okt. 2018 kl. 20.45
1. Absolute Radiance
2. Pure Vessel
3. Nightmare King Grimm
4. Markoth (Ascended)
5. Radiance
6. Grey Prince Zote
7. Nailsage Sly
8. Watcher Knights
9. Nailmasters Oro and Mato
10. Xero (Ascended)
Adre 9. okt. 2018 kl. 8.05 
I'd put NMK above PV, after some practice, I could beet PV consistantly, but I'm still always on my toes against NMK
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I'd put NMK above PV, after some practice, I could beet PV consistantly, but I'm still always on my toes against NMK
Maybe because PV have a bit more of a predictable tool kit?
I dunno which one is faster tho.
karasielvenlied 3. nov. 2018 kl. 14.05 
1. Radiant Oblobbles.
2. Radiant Markoth.
3. Radiant Absolute Radiance.
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