Some thoughts about pantheon 5

[CupOfWater]

It sucks on many levels, man

It's literally just wasting your time; you have to beat 39 easy bosses, to fight three actually hard and challenging ones, and you are fully healed after each one anyway.

Lack of checkpoints is the main problem here. It's no longer about a challenge; it's just time-consuming to get to the actually hard part. You are fully healed at benches, so if you could just go back to them, there would be literally no difference whatsoever, since you are at your best condition every time you leave the bench room. And for what? Just to find Abs Rad, the most unforgiving boss in the game, and the most unfair one (controversial, I know). I won with her a couple of times; she isn't that hard, if RNG is by your side. Sometimes I felt like attacks were literally unavoidable in some conditions. I do like hard bosses; NKG is my favorite in the game because it seems impossible at first, but you can learn him because he is throwing just one attack at a time. PV is the same (the fact they are out of the screen for half of the battle is annoying at first, but you get used to it after a few tries)

Also, why do you have to fight with easier variants of the bosses as well? (False Knight, Soul Master, etc.) If you can beat their harder variants, you can beat their easier versions, no problem.

Not only that, but you have to sit through every single animation before each fight. So it takes even longer to go through the Pantheon. It would be around 5 or so minutes faster if they were just skipped. It's not much, but since you'll die several times and redo the Pantheon, it gets annoying after some time.

So you fight through 40 minutes of a gauntlet against easy-as-hell bosses, just to face a boss who will whoop you across the floor if you are out of luck.

The whole game is a blast, but Pantheon 5 is a horrible game design in so many ways.
Sorry if I sound salty; I just needed to get it out of my chest.

[Boksha]

I agree it's frustrating and wastes a lot of time, but I think the idea is that you don't die multiple times. All of the hard bosses in the pantheon are ones you've faced before, and it should become pretty clear early on that you'll be facing everything on this one, so if you don't want to waste your own time, you practice the bosses until you're sure you won't lose.

Personally, I beat it on the second attempt; first attempt to unlock AbsRad in the HoG, second attempt after practicing all bosses to the point where I was confident. Admittedly, I was a little lucky making it to AR on the first attempt, so you may normally need 3 attempts (one to realize you'll have to practice all the bosses and die before reaching the final boss, one to make it to AR and one to win), but still.

That said, the grind to master all the bosses to the point where my win rate (with low loss of masks/soul) was as good as 100% was itself pretty boring, and the second, final run, had zero excitement because I was just repeating fights I'd done dozens of times each. In general, not a nice experience.

[Mr. Merchant]

this IS a gauntlet. majority of bosses feel easy because you're progressing in skill and getting further. that's the point. and the game let's you train against any boss you want. getting to abs rad is a check to see how far you've come and how strong you are so the game unlocks abs rad for you to train. but the challenge of p5 isn't in just difficulty but also patience. if you could just fight from NKG or Markoth from the start it wouldn't be much of a challenge. and despite having benches there's still a possibility for you to die before the big five meaning you have to take every boss at least somewhat serious.

[TheReal495]

you'd think that the fact that the early bosses are easy would make that people don't complain but it's actually the opposite lmao go play the pantheon of nightmares if you want a really hard boss rush that doesn't "waste your time"

[Sokurah]

I never bothered to beat it because i thought it was too boring.

If it was just the hardest bosses, no rest, really hard, count me in, but all these boring bosses every time you fail? No thx.

[SL3dgE]

if you do all bindings on the other pantheons you get extra blue hp that helps out

[Myztkl©-Kev]

there's a reason my main save is only 111%

[aaronlg]

Originally posted by Myztkl©-Kev:

there's a reason my main save is only 111%

No doubt there is, but it isn't Pantheon of Hallownest, since it doesn't even count towards your 112%.