keyboard or controller

[ryan]

both, i can play, but for some reason, instead of dying 100x, id die 75x in keyboard. make action with a push, not moving to the next button and push (e.g. controller). the creators said this game is better in controller (i read some article somewhere). what do you think?

[Perseus]

I think it depends on personal preference (personally, i use keyboard + mouse).
Even if one input method has a large advantage over another, personal preference is usually better.

[Muramoth]

You read that a lot with side scrollers: "Controller strongly recommended!"... 99% of the time, even when it comes from the devs themselves, you can safely ignore it. There is not a single reason why Hollow Knight would be inherently better on a controller (the contrary if anything), so it really is just up to preference.

[Kagora]

I struggled for my first 50 hours after falling for the constant "platformers are best with controllers" junk, even though I can't stand controllers with how small they are and how much they hurt my wrists, so I finally got sick of it after getting stuck on a boss and decided to switch.

It still wasn't much better, as it made me compress my shoulders I went back to controller once just to do a few things because I didn't like my first few revisions of my KB control layout, so I started experimenting with Mouse + keyboard but I couldn't get the hang of it sense it felt pretty awkward to me.

After a while of making multiple revisions to find a control layout I could use, I settled on QWASD + 24567 numpad keys to make it easier on my shoulders and it was finally comfortable.
After that I did pretty much everything you can do in the game, some of them multiple times just for fun.

Over all, it genuinely does not matter, even latency wise, there are plenty of people who have fully completed the game on switch which is known for having bad input delay and last time I tried that version it felt like 200ms of input delay but I still beat a boss a friend was stuck on, on my first try with a controller I had never used before because I knew the game so well.

All that really matters is practice and comfort with what input method you use, if you put in enough time and effort into it you could learn to play the game with your toes on a guitar hero controller.

[Sverr]

Since my hands haven't touched a controller for more than 20 years, I can safely say "use the keyboard" :) Yet I believe that everyone picks that is most confortable for them. And yeah, "played best with a controller" is a totally ignorable message.

[Hotel Security]

I don't know why anyone would want to play a game with such twitchy reflexes on a keyboard.

>And yeah, "played best with a controller" is a totally ignorable message.

Only for a sicko like you who clearly hates controllers in general or likes making things more annoying for themselves. For most people, it's reasonable advice. Also, I have a feeling that the keyboard players aren't the type who did stuff like beating the Pantheons.

[Kagora]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

Also, I have a feeling that the keyboard players aren't the type who did stuff like beating the Pantheons.

I've done all bindings for all pantheons, PoP hitless, all bosses radiant in HoG on all 3 save file types and have done Radiant Markoth back to back 4 times, and radiant AR 7 times back to back without getting hit once, all on keyboard.

A friend of mine beat AR in P5 on his first ever encounter using KB.

The first ever P5 no-hit all bindings was done on KB.

Input method does not matter, only personal preference and proficiency.

[♦ HexaDoken ♦]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

I don't know why anyone would want to play a game with such twitchy reflexes on a keyboard.

I've always been wondering where the sentiment that controllers somehow improve your reaction come from. With a controller, you are pretty much always going to be moving your thumb from one button to another, which takes up valuable time. With a keyboard, you can simply rest all fingers on all relevant buttons, and respond instantly. Wouldn't this enable twitch reflexes far better?

As far as I understand, the reason games make a point of recommending controllers is because most cheap keyboards do not handle multiple buttons at once well, locking up if you try to hold down certain combinations - something that can be fatal in a game like this. If you are aware of it and can bind your keys in a way that avoids this issue, or just shell out for a higher end keyboard that doesn't have this problem to begin with, playing on a keyboard should not pose any issues.

[Muramoth]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

I don't know why anyone would want to play a game with such twitchy reflexes on a keyboard.

>And yeah, "played best with a controller" is a totally ignorable message.

Only for a sicko like you who clearly hates controllers in general or likes making things more annoying for themselves. For most people, it's reasonable advice. Also, I have a feeling that the keyboard players aren't the type who did stuff like beating the Pantheons.

WTF?!? That's a new one. Actually never heard that argument before. It's utterly wrong of course, but new to me none the less. How does using keyboard degrade your reflexes? If anything it helps you, because you can have all your fingers on a button ready to press without any extra movement that would be necessary on a controller.

And before you go into any further assumption about peoples skills... Yes I have finished all pantheons. Also you might want to know that some of the fastest speedruns are done on keyboard.

[Perseus]

Ignore Hotel Security, they're generally rude and wrong about most things, rarely post multiple times in a given topic (or multiple days in a row in the same forum).
This is also like the third or fifth time they assumed/said/implied that i wasn't very skilled at Hollow Knight, even tough i'm more skilled than they are and i corrected them every time.

[Sverr]

Yeah, the person clearly has some issues)

Originally posted by Perseus:

Ignore Hotel Security, they're generally rude and wrong about most things, rarely post multiple times in a given topic (or multiple days in a row in the same forum).
This is also like the third or fifth time they assumed/said/implied that i wasn't very skilled at Hollow Knight, even tough i'm more skilled than they are and i corrected them every time.

[JustALonelyDude]

i did the whole thing with keyboard, trail of the fool, pantheons, radiant NKG etc. i just like how it feels. i feel like i have more control somehow. i didn't even play many games on the PC before. (mostly used switch controller) but when i got this game. i didn't have a compatible controller handy. so i used keyboard & Mouse.
i have to admit i immediately hated the preset control scheme, but after switching things to my liking, i couldn't imagine why i'd want a controller (a little later i actually tried controller, but it wasn't working for me. but that might just be cause i was used to keyboard already)

i haven't noticed any problems from using keyboard at all. feels quick and responsive. i can always go the direction i need, when i need to, and because my mouse just so happened to have two extra buttons, (that i never thought i'd need) there was plenty of space for all the controls.

i really don't know what this Hotel Security person has against keyboard, but i think its at least just as good as controller.

[76561199268450164]

Originally posted by Hotel Security:

I don't know why anyone would want to play a game with such twitchy reflexes on a keyboard.

>And yeah, "played best with a controller" is a totally ignorable message.

Only for a sicko like you who clearly hates controllers in general or likes making things more annoying for themselves. For most people, it's reasonable advice. Also, I have a feeling that the keyboard players aren't the type who did stuff like beating the Pantheons.

I beat all pantheons with all 4 curses on beat all the bosses on radiant I even 100% celeste with all goldens on a keyboard my man u are delusional

[MinecraftedMario]

controller, but used consoles more than pc so im biased

[Phirestar]

I always go for controller in any game that’s based heavily on movement, or simply when mouse input is minimal. It feels much better when playing.

[Jelly2006]

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