Hollow Knight

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PeaHaitchGee Feb 17, 2019 @ 3:22pm
Hollow Knight Silksong Theories!
As a lot of you know a new Hollow Knight game is in the works! There's a ton we don't know about yet, but I think that it'd be fun to toss around ideas on what it is about and what it might include! Here's some of my ideas on what the game will be:

Let's start at the beginning of the trailer. We see Hornet trapped in a cage being carried by a bunch of little bugs. When they start to cross a bridge a bunch silk appears destroying the bridge. I don't think that this was Hornet's doing so maybe it was a hidden power that activated when they came close to the kingdom or maybe it was the Weavers. The next shot shows Hornet running through a mossy area. we know that this is the starting area because on Team Cherry's website it shows the cage she was in in the mossy area. I believe that this mossy area is at the bottom of the kingdom and the bridge was somewhere near the top.

Now, let's move on to another point I'd like to make.Throughout the trailer we see a contrast of natural areas and industrial areas. I think that this is important because it could reveal the theme of the game which is nature vs. industry. The original Hollow Knight had a theme of light vs dark so I think this is a possibility.

Something interesting in the trailer is the inclusion of Steel Soul enemies that you can see around the 00:35 second mark in the trailer. I know that these enemies are made up of Steel Soul because they look very similar to the NPC Steel Soul Jinn from the first game. Maybe this kingdom is where she came from? In their video talking about Silksong, Team Cherry mentions that this kingdom is haunted by spirits. I think that during the time this kingdom was advancing they experimented with this rare and powerful metal. Maybe they fused a spirit with the steel and they became a single entity. Then they used this new creature to help build the rest of the kingdom. This could be the cause of what's haunting the kingdom. Maybe the spirits got mad that their kind was being forced to possess this metal and do the kingdom's bidding. Another possibility is that when the kingdom was building during their industrial age they destroyed sacred ground and disturbed the resting spirits.

Another thing worth noting is the presence of Weavers throughout the trailer. Heck, even their symbol is in the title! It is undeniable that Weavers will play an important role in this game. I have a few theories on what role they might play. One of my theories is that the ruler of the kingdom is a part of the Weavers. Maybe the ruler is dying and they want Hornet to become their new leader since she was Herrah's daughter. Another theory is that there will at least be a Weaver village or NPC. We know for sure that Hornet will interact with at least one Weaver because at 1:37 in the trailer we see a tool with the Weaver's symbol.

What I find interesting is the question, "Why are we fighting enemies?" We know that they aren't infected because we don't see the orange goop found in the enemies from the first game. So we know that these enemies are in control of themselves. I think that Hornet is killing enemies because she is a hunter. We know she could be one because of her description in the Hunter's Journal. Here's a link to the page: https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Hornet
Maybe she has her own journal that she fills out in the game! Another possibility is that she is an outsider and isn't welcome in this kingdom.

Something else that's worth noting is the repetition bells in the trailer. There are bells everywhere! They're on staffs, worn as hats, and worn as helmets. They even make up the ground in a village that has houses that are just giant bells! Maybe the bells keep the spirits at bay. This wouldn't be too crazy of a theory because ancient Jews wore bells to fend off evil spirits. We also know that bells have certain powers because at 1:54 in the trailer we see a bell ring that causes mysterious symbols to appear.

That's all I have to say about this trailer. Feel free to leave your own ideas in the comments!
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Acolyte Feb 20, 2019 @ 1:27am 
i just watched a video analysing the trailer and bosses. and now i can't stop thinking about 1 detail thats barely visible, and slightly gives a clue. the thread that seems to hang off most if not every boss upon their scream animation. and the video creator (mossbag, i think it was) thought that the string was weaved by the weavers, who were being imprisoned by the final boss/master, who forced them into making the string that could potentially control every boss in the game, like a puppet. and the quote 'ascend to the shining citadel at the top of the world.' from the official website makes me think that the thing at the very top of the citadel could be the puppet master of silksong.
PeaHaitchGee Feb 20, 2019 @ 2:59pm 
I think that the puppet master theory is plausible, but the giant metal boss at 1:03 doesn't have strings. If you look at each of the "strings" they don't appear to fully connect to the robot and when we see it attack a second later it has no strings attached. This is why I don't believe that the final boss is using the Weavers. The only Weaver we see in the trailer is at 1:53 where we see an one unconscious and surrounded by string. Around this Weaver is a bunch of string attached to different sticks and stretch far down into the unknown depths below. Now, I think that there are 2 possibilities. One, there is an area special to the weavers themed after puppets with enemies that are lifeless husks controlled by one big enemy with several appendages controlling the puppets at the top. Another possibility is that this is this game's Weaver's den and this is where we get the tool at 1:37 that looks very similar to the unconscious weaver.

Another theory I have is that this weaver isn't captured but an NPC trying to help Hornet by giving her power. At this part of the trailer we clearly see the tagline "New Heroes". I think that the trailer is talking about the Weaver instead of Hornet because it's kinda obvious Hornets the hero. Maybe they'll act like this game's Nail-masters and give Hornet new abilities? Maybe the Weavers were banished by the ruler and afterwards made this new kingdom corrupt and against all Weavers? It would explain why they're after Hornet because she's a part of the Weaver's.
Acolyte Feb 21, 2019 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by The_PHG:
I think that the puppet master theory is plausible, but the giant metal boss at 1:03 doesn't have strings. If you look at each of the "strings" they don't appear to fully connect to the robot and when we see it attack a second later it has no strings attached. This is why I don't believe that the final boss is using the Weavers. The only Weaver we see in the trailer is at 1:53 where we see an one unconscious and surrounded by string. Around this Weaver is a bunch of string attached to different sticks and stretch far down into the unknown depths below. Now, I think that there are 2 possibilities. One, there is an area special to the weavers themed after puppets with enemies that are lifeless husks controlled by one big enemy with several appendages controlling the puppets at the top. Another possibility is that this is this game's Weaver's den and this is where we get the tool at 1:37 that looks very similar to the unconscious weaver.

Another theory I have is that this weaver isn't captured but an NPC trying to help Hornet by giving her power. At this part of the trailer we clearly see the tagline "New Heroes". I think that the trailer is talking about the Weaver instead of Hornet because it's kinda obvious Hornets the hero. Maybe they'll act like this game's Nail-masters and give Hornet new abilities? Maybe the Weavers were banished by the ruler and afterwards made this new kingdom corrupt and against all Weavers? It would explain why they're after Hornet because she's a part of the Weaver's.

yes, the strings do dissapear after the roar and might not look connected, but what else could the lines be? it kinda makes sense a bit, but then again the youtuber also pointed out that the theories most likely were wrong. we'll have to see (i hate saying that phrase) :/

the unconscious weaver seems weird. it could be a puppet master boss, but who knows. it doesn't seem like this should be the end of silk-related things tho. the whole game is supposed to be based around the forces of SILK and song, so weavers (not just hornet) must be playing a bigger role in this. and also i thought the tools was supposed to be crafted, not simply obtained? it might be where we get part of the tool. or maybe where we get the blueprint for it? idk

the nailmaster idea. thas a good one. it could be like a nailmaster, but it can teach hornet movements as well as needle abilities. idk about the weaver itself being a hero, but it can definitely be helpful to hornet. and idk about the city being corrupted, but i'd think that the ruler would capture and use them or kill them instead of simply banishing, which is probably why hornet wakes up in a cage.

and i think the true reason of the small creatures being hostile is the second part of the game's title: song. the youtuber mossbag also includes in his analysis that he thinks that something, like a singing bug, has used their singing to put all bugs in a trance, and also points out that the numerous bells in the game are widely used by npcs and not by enemies, which made him think that the bells were used to drown the sound of the song and escape it. but it also makes me wonder why hornet isn't also caught in this trance. maybe weavers are immune? or maybe she makes her own song and is immune because of that, since she can strum her needle like a chello or somethin.
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McAinslay Feb 21, 2019 @ 9:00am 
I think that the giant bell is the one thing spreading and creating the music. The fact that it has a seal of binding over it means that it's something of great power and importance. And perhaps in the scene where hornet stands before a weaver that's encapsulated by silk, what is she is using her powers to remove the silk and free the weaver. Maybe the weaver is the source of the silk that haunts the kingdom. It could be that it was captured and forced to create the silk by the faceless or perhaps the ruler of the kingdom.
PeaHaitchGee Feb 21, 2019 @ 7:11pm 
Originally posted by McAinslay:
I think that the giant bell is the one thing spreading and creating the music. The fact that it has a seal of binding over it means that it's something of great power and importance. And perhaps in the scene where hornet stands before a weaver that's encapsulated by silk, what is she is using her powers to remove the silk and free the weaver. Maybe the weaver is the source of the silk that haunts the kingdom. It could be that it was captured and forced to create the silk by the faceless or perhaps the ruler of the kingdom.
The bell in the trailer is definitely important, but is probably not the cause of the song. When the bell rings it shows a seal with what looks like a needle on it. Maybe this is where Hornet gets an upgrade to one of her abilities kinda like the abyss upgrades from Hollow Knight. Also, the bell shown is large like the ones used to notify a town what time it is like Big Ben, so it isn't likely that it created the song entrancing the bugs of the kingdom. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to reveal the cause of the conflict in the trailer.

Your Weaver theory is interesting, but not very plausible. Hornet doesn't appear to be removing the silk, instead it looks like she is channeling her power to gain a new ability. Or maybe she is trying to revive the Weaver to help him?

Originally posted by JEF DE DERPY BLOB:
Originally posted by The_PHG:
I think that the puppet master theory is plausible, but the giant metal boss at 1:03 doesn't have strings. If you look at each of the "strings" they don't appear to fully connect to the robot and when we see it attack a second later it has no strings attached. This is why I don't believe that the final boss is using the Weavers. The only Weaver we see in the trailer is at 1:53 where we see an one unconscious and surrounded by string. Around this Weaver is a bunch of string attached to different sticks and stretch far down into the unknown depths below. Now, I think that there are 2 possibilities. One, there is an area special to the weavers themed after puppets with enemies that are lifeless husks controlled by one big enemy with several appendages controlling the puppets at the top. Another possibility is that this is this game's Weaver's den and this is where we get the tool at 1:37 that looks very similar to the unconscious weaver.

Another theory I have is that this weaver isn't captured but an NPC trying to help Hornet by giving her power. At this part of the trailer we clearly see the tagline "New Heroes". I think that the trailer is talking about the Weaver instead of Hornet because it's kinda obvious Hornets the hero. Maybe they'll act like this game's Nail-masters and give Hornet new abilities? Maybe the Weavers were banished by the ruler and afterwards made this new kingdom corrupt and against all Weavers? It would explain why they're after Hornet because she's a part of the Weaver's.

yes, the strings do dissapear after the roar and might not look connected, but what else could the lines be? it kinda makes sense a bit, but then again the youtuber also pointed out that the theories most likely were wrong. we'll have to see (i hate saying that phrase) :/

the unconscious weaver seems weird. it could be a puppet master boss, but who knows. it doesn't seem like this should be the end of silk-related things tho. the whole game is supposed to be based around the forces of SILK and song, so weavers (not just hornet) must be playing a bigger role in this. and also i thought the tools was supposed to be crafted, not simply obtained? it might be where we get part of the tool. or maybe where we get the blueprint for it? idk

the nailmaster idea. thas a good one. it could be like a nailmaster, but it can teach hornet movements as well as needle abilities. idk about the weaver itself being a hero, but it can definitely be helpful to hornet. and idk about the city being corrupted, but i'd think that the ruler would capture and use them or kill them instead of simply banishing, which is probably why hornet wakes up in a cage.

and i think the true reason of the small creatures being hostile is the second part of the game's title: song. the youtuber mossbag also includes in his analysis that he thinks that something, like a singing bug, has used their singing to put all bugs in a trance, and also points out that the numerous bells in the game are widely used by npcs and not by enemies, which made him think that the bells were used to drown the sound of the song and escape it. but it also makes me wonder why hornet isn't also caught in this trance. maybe weavers are immune? or maybe she makes her own song and is immune because of that, since she can strum her needle like a chello or somethin.
I really like the theory that the ruler is trying to capture the Weavers! It also gave me an idea! What if the ruler was trying to use the Weavers for evil, but they ran away and went into hiding? And in an attempt to draw them out the ruler tried to capture Hornet and hold her hostage until they got what they wanted! That could be why Hornet's there!

I think that your point on the entrancing song is partially true. I think that the song has affected the bugs that don't live in the city(like the skull enemies), but not the ones in the city(like the cult guys). Think of it like the infection from Hollow Knight. A lot of bugs were affected, but not all of them(like the Mantis Village). But your theory is still good.
Acolyte Feb 22, 2019 @ 1:18am 
Originally posted by The_PHG:
Originally posted by McAinslay:
I think that the giant bell is the one thing spreading and creating the music. The fact that it has a seal of binding over it means that it's something of great power and importance. And perhaps in the scene where hornet stands before a weaver that's encapsulated by silk, what is she is using her powers to remove the silk and free the weaver. Maybe the weaver is the source of the silk that haunts the kingdom. It could be that it was captured and forced to create the silk by the faceless or perhaps the ruler of the kingdom.
The bell in the trailer is definitely important, but is probably not the cause of the song. When the bell rings it shows a seal with what looks like a needle on it. Maybe this is where Hornet gets an upgrade to one of her abilities kinda like the abyss upgrades from Hollow Knight. Also, the bell shown is large like the ones used to notify a town what time it is like Big Ben, so it isn't likely that it created the song entrancing the bugs of the kingdom. Also, it wouldn't make much sense to reveal the cause of the conflict in the trailer.

Your Weaver theory is interesting, but not very plausible. Hornet doesn't appear to be removing the silk, instead it looks like she is channeling her power to gain a new ability. Or maybe she is trying to revive the Weaver to help him?

Originally posted by JEF DE DERPY BLOB:

yes, the strings do dissapear after the roar and might not look connected, but what else could the lines be? it kinda makes sense a bit, but then again the youtuber also pointed out that the theories most likely were wrong. we'll have to see (i hate saying that phrase) :/

the unconscious weaver seems weird. it could be a puppet master boss, but who knows. it doesn't seem like this should be the end of silk-related things tho. the whole game is supposed to be based around the forces of SILK and song, so weavers (not just hornet) must be playing a bigger role in this. and also i thought the tools was supposed to be crafted, not simply obtained? it might be where we get part of the tool. or maybe where we get the blueprint for it? idk

the nailmaster idea. thas a good one. it could be like a nailmaster, but it can teach hornet movements as well as needle abilities. idk about the weaver itself being a hero, but it can definitely be helpful to hornet. and idk about the city being corrupted, but i'd think that the ruler would capture and use them or kill them instead of simply banishing, which is probably why hornet wakes up in a cage.

and i think the true reason of the small creatures being hostile is the second part of the game's title: song. the youtuber mossbag also includes in his analysis that he thinks that something, like a singing bug, has used their singing to put all bugs in a trance, and also points out that the numerous bells in the game are widely used by npcs and not by enemies, which made him think that the bells were used to drown the sound of the song and escape it. but it also makes me wonder why hornet isn't also caught in this trance. maybe weavers are immune? or maybe she makes her own song and is immune because of that, since she can strum her needle like a chello or somethin.
I really like the theory that the ruler is trying to capture the Weavers! It also gave me an idea! What if the ruler was trying to use the Weavers for evil, but they ran away and went into hiding? And in an attempt to draw them out the ruler tried to capture Hornet and hold her hostage until they got what they wanted! That could be why Hornet's there!

I think that your point on the entrancing song is partially true. I think that the song has affected the bugs that don't live in the city(like the skull enemies), but not the ones in the city(like the cult guys). Think of it like the infection from Hollow Knight. A lot of bugs were affected, but not all of them(like the Mantis Village). But your theory is still good.

probably. another theory i had was that the weavers might've been the ones to call hornet in because they knew she was their last hope, and sent for the help of that white thicc leg bug (forgot her name, fought twice in the trailer) who sent her helpers to 'capture her' but in a cage she can easily break out. the one weaver that survived in hallownest could be the escort, who helped to 'capture' hornet, and the thicc leg bug might've been the 'hornet' of silksong, training hornet to survive and combat the leader. kinda makes sense, but probably wrong.

and yes, that makes sense! some bugs (like the white dudes who captured hornet) might be immune and were forced to help the ruler , or the steel assassins who were trained by the ruler and potentially wanted to work with the ruler for money. and most probably, weavers were also immune to this spell, which is why they escaped and secured themselves in webs so easily, and also it is why hornet is not in the trance like the rest. and that fits with the other part i told which says that the bells are the way that the cities keep themselves from being entranced. this lore fits somewhat perfectly!
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