Pantheon of the Artist, all bindings (help)

[CALCIUM]

Alright so I am setting out to do all bindings for all pantheons. First pantheon was easy but this pantheon is getting on my nerves.
I can handle all the bosses easily save for the Oblobbles, Marmu, and Flukemarm.
How do you deal with these things of primal aspids of filth with all bindings?

[kanna]

CALCIUM a écrit :

I am doing all bindings, I cannot use mark of pride because of that.

Whoops! I did read that but I was writing that in a hurry and it slipped my mind for a minute there. The rest of the suggestions still apply though. Spells are really useful with Marmu if you use them right. Unfortunately you won't have the larger size from Shaman Stone, but whenever you have the soul for it, they're still the quickest way to get through that fight.

Also:

For Flukemarm, just keep doing Shrieks and you can use some of them both to damage her and the flukefeys aside from when you need to get soul.

For Oblobbles, Shade Soul is super useful for pushing them back. Also Dash Slash when you're out of soul is very helpful for the extra reach, as tingtingaroo said. I find they're easier if you get rid of one of them as quickly as possible and concentrate on the other one, but you might find it easier the other way. See which of those approaches is better.

[CALCIUM]

Alright guys, I beat it with all the bindings.
Thanks for the tips and videos.
Now for the next pantheon with all bindings, wish me luck.

[Gabriel]

Congratulations and good luck!

[tintingaroo]

CALCIUM a écrit :

Alright guys, I beat it with all the bindings.
Thanks for the tips and videos.
Now for the next pantheon with all bindings, wish me luck.

Is Zote alive or dead on your save?

[CALCIUM]

He's alive. and yes I know that means I have to deal with him

[Whiskra]

Zote is not the biggest problem in that pantheon with all bindings, The Collector is.

[tintingaroo]

For me it's Zote. P3 Collector, once I worked out a method, all I have to do is apply it*.
Zote with his more 'random' actions and his Zotelings floating about cause me much more issues.
(*Not to say I can't lose against P3 Collector).

[kanna]

@CALCIUM: Congrats!

tintingaroo a écrit :

For me it's Zote. P3 Collector, once I worked out a method, all I have to do is apply it*.
Zote with his more 'random' actions and his Zotelings floating about cause me much more issues.
(*Not to say I can't lose against P3 Collector).

What is your method for P3 Collector with all bindings? (I presume since the adds are weaker, it's not so bad to manage them compared to P5 where it's Ascended-style Collector instead of Attuned.)

[tintingaroo]

Extended Cyclone Slash + movement to hit the adds and (often times) The Collector, onto Abyss Shriek. In front of Collector is safe because he'll jump over. Using Abyss Shriek hits him as he stands/lands in front of the Knight, as he jumps over and as he lands behind.
Leave Collector to do his jumping and charge nail for next wave, prepared to dodge if he attacks.

That's the basic loop, then there is figuring out a way to deal with things when e.g. the drops aren't grouped favourably.

And your presumption is very correct. P5 Collector with single bindings was tough for me - all bindings must be nutty.

[Whiskra]

tintingaroo a écrit :

For me it's Zote. P3 Collector, once I worked out a method, all I have to do is apply it*.
Zote with his more 'random' actions and his Zotelings floating about cause me much more issues.
(*Not to say I can't lose against P3 Collector).

meh, I never felt Zote was very random at all, even with all bindings. It is a little more random with all bindings than without, because instead of spending your soul to blast away exploding Zotelings, it's best to save it for Abyss Shriek when he spits out normal Zotelings since it clears them out instantly. Other than that, it's practically the same as fighting Zote normally.

WIth all bindings Collector though, you'll still have to practice his fight specifically to get the rythm of charging up your Cyclone Slash down right. If you mess it up, you'll easily be overwhelmed, even in P3. Abyss Shrieking on him with all bindings is not advised because of that, your soul is best saved for Descending Dark/Shade Soul when you've missed a few adds with the Cyclone Slash and feel you're about to be overwhelmed and want to clear out all the adds quickly. All bindings Collector in P5 is even worse for this since Cyclone Slash won't one shot the adds anymore. You can't really fight all bindings Collector like you would fight him normally without any bindings. It's a completely different fight.