Pantheon 2 all bindings - any tips against obblobles.

[Doctor Fetus]

Obblobles are the only reason I can not beat pantheon 2 all bindings.

I can more or less reliably dodge their stuff when they are far away but:

- they move randomly and sooner or later I get caught with one of them standing very close to me and spamming bullets or they surround me and start spamming making it impossible to dodge.

- There is a very small window of opportunity to attack between their barrages, sometimes you just can not hit them back and are forced to passively dodge.

- it's all bindings so you can not spam spells to kill them fast or push them away with spells when they get too close.

I watched some videos of radiant obblobles or P2 all bindings and I did not see any special strategies there, people seem to just do it relying on perfect reflexes which is not really my case.Any advanced tips would be welcomed.

[Obamanation]

Try to pre-emptive position so you don't get caught tight in corner. Other than that, positioning and patience, keep topped to 4 health. It may take a while, but take your time and just focus on staying alive over doing damage.

[Hedrack]

Dash slash helps a lot during the fight to close distance and make a strong attack before backing off. Great slash can help too if you don't have the room for a dash. If you shade soul when they stop to shoot it'll double or triple hit them (possibly both) and do some serious push back to give you more breathing room. Just make sure you can fire it without a shot hitting you. Abyss shriek also works good for more damage but usually isn't as ideal with positioning them.

You want to move to the other side of the room if you have about 1/3 of the screen from the wall and they're both firing (you can shade dash through one if it bounces along the bottom). If you make a side swing when it's facing away from you it'll change to start moving in your direction (so you want to avoid attacking if you just moved to a new side and it's near the wall but flying away). Remember that when it shoots in one direction, you have 2-3 shots before it'll shoot again from that direction for weaving between shots. Shade dashing can help, but if you're too close you'll run the risk of dashing into the next shot.

Lastly, usually they'll fire their shots about the same time but if you're unlucky (or the fight wears on) they'll start to de-sync making it harder to time hits. Usually what works best is try to dash slash/great slash if you just dodged a shot from that direction (and they won't shoot again from there for a few shots) to hit the other one. It's easier to get cornered if they don't fire the same time, so playing cautiously and being more ready to move to the other side can help. The fight's kind of long and being patient and wearing them down works best.

I find it easier once you're doing to one. Just don't get cornered and dash slash after it ends its shots or if you can dash slash as it's moving low then dash away/jump a shot if it's coming at you.

This is a clip doing them all bindings (not the best kill but shows what I mean):

https://youtu.be/EIc2PxEpVh4?t=175

Hope that helps!

[Doctor Fetus]

Originally posted by Hedrack:

Dash slash helps a lot during the fight to close distance and make a strong attack before backing off. Great slash can help too if you don't have the room for a dash. If you shade soul when they stop to shoot it'll double or triple hit them (possibly both) and do some serious push back to give you more breathing room. Just make sure you can fire it without a shot hitting you. Abyss shriek also works good for more damage but usually isn't as ideal with positioning them.

You want to move to the other side of the room if you have about 1/3 of the screen from the wall and they're both firing (you can shade dash through one if it bounces along the bottom). If you make a side swing when it's facing away from you it'll change to start moving in your direction (so you want to avoid attacking if you just moved to a new side and it's near the wall but flying away). Remember that when it shoots in one direction, you have 2-3 shots before it'll shoot again from that direction for weaving between shots. Shade dashing can help, but if you're too close you'll run the risk of dashing into the next shot.

Lastly, usually they'll fire their shots about the same time but if you're unlucky (or the fight wears on) they'll start to de-sync making it harder to time hits. Usually what works best is try to dash slash/great slash if you just dodged a shot from that direction (and they won't shoot again from there for a few shots) to hit the other one. It's easier to get cornered if they don't fire the same time, so playing cautiously and being more ready to move to the other side can help. The fight's kind of long and being patient and wearing them down works best.

I find it easier once you're doing to one. Just don't get cornered and dash slash after it ends its shots or if you can dash slash as it's moving low then dash away/jump a shot if it's coming at you.

This is a clip doing them all bindings (not the best kill but shows what I mean):

https://youtu.be/EIc2PxEpVh4?t=175

Hope that helps!

Thank you for such a detailed answer.

I noticed on a video that sometimes you refuse to great slash one of them when he is right above you. You do It as you are afraid of him moving towards you and doing a contact damage, right?

[Hedrack]

Yes, I played overly cautious since it was an attempt to finish the pantheon without taking any damage. Oblobbles can sometimes be a bit finicky with their movement when attacking so I tend to back off quickly or not commit unless I'm pretty certain I can use a nail art without being hit.

Otherwise you can take more risks and work abyss shriek in too for a faster kill. Fortunately, Mantis Lords come next and they are much easier, plus there's a bench right after them.

Good luck!