Isn't Grey Prince Zote in third pantheon a bit too much?

[Fatal_Fatalis]

The fact that I need to kill this boss (way harder than Sly IMO) while other people doesn't need to because they didn't save Zote is really unfair, what were you thinking Team Cherry? I can beat the pantheon but it's really hard and with all bindings.. nope, also if Zote don't kill me, Uumuu will send me back at the beggining (mostly because I always end up with 1-2 hp after Zote).

I don't know you guys, but I feel like the 4th pantheon (except the final boss) is easier than the third one...

[Arthur]

Whoa, you don't have to fight him if you let him die? That's a bit... Unfair. Though most people saved him, I guess, so...

[DJDiceZ]

I guess it's up to the person to find x boss harder than y but overall this doesn't seem like a very popular complaint. Imho Zote is fine and in the same range of difficulty as Sly.

[Fatal_Fatalis]

Originally posted by DJDiceZ:

I guess it's up to the person to find x boss harder than y but overall this doesn't seem like a very popular complaint. Imho Zote is fine and in the same range of difficulty as Sly.

The real problem is that some people don't need to fight it in order to beat the pantheon, which makes it a lot easier (since Zote is one of the hardest bosses in that pantheon). They can make either everyone needs to fight Zote or just remove him from that boss rush, but how it works right now is really unfair.

[DJDiceZ]

Originally posted by Fatal_Fatalis:

Originally posted by DJDiceZ:

I guess it's up to the person to find x boss harder than y but overall this doesn't seem like a very popular complaint. Imho Zote is fine and in the same range of difficulty as Sly.

The real problem is that some people don't need to fight it in order to beat the pantheon, which makes it a lot easier (since Zote is one of the hardest bosses in that pantheon). They can make either everyone needs to fight Zote or just remove him from that boss rush, but how it works right now is really unfair.

Yeah i get you, personally i'd rather he be in the pantheon even for those that didn't save him.

[Arti_Sel]

Originally posted by DJDiceZ:

Originally posted by Fatal_Fatalis:

The real problem is that some people don't need to fight it in order to beat the pantheon, which makes it a lot easier (since Zote is one of the hardest bosses in that pantheon). They can make either everyone needs to fight Zote or just remove him from that boss rush, but how it works right now is really unfair.

Yeah i get you, personally i'd rather he be in the pantheon even for those that didn't save him.

Thought you guys liked those easy ways out.

[RocketPotatoL62]

Zote is generally an easy boss outside of ascended/radiant, and fits with the rest imo. Uumuu on the other hand was a real nuisance when going for the bindings.

[Fatal_Fatalis]

Originally posted by Sonic_RocketPotatoL62:

Zote is generally an easy boss outside of ascended/radiant, and fits with the rest imo. Uumuu on the other hand was a real nuisance when going for the bindings.

It's amazing how the bosses are hard for some people but not for others and vice versa.

To me Uumuu is really easy (If I don't have left 1-2 HP of course) specially after the nerfs, but Zote is an absolute nightmare to fight against. I did almost all binding except the charm binding, with that I've NEVER beaten Zote...

[DJDiceZ]

Originally posted by Fatal_Fatalis:

specially after the nerfs

Well that's kind of the point, people were complaining about pre-nerf Uumuu

[RocketPotatoL62]

Originally posted by Fatal_Fatalis:

Originally posted by Sonic_RocketPotatoL62:

Zote is generally an easy boss outside of ascended/radiant, and fits with the rest imo. Uumuu on the other hand was a real nuisance when going for the bindings.

It's amazing how the bosses are hard for some people but not for others and vice versa.

To me Uumuu is really easy (If I don't have left 1-2 HP of course) specially after the nerfs, but Zote is an absolute nightmare to fight against. I did almost all binding except the charm binding, with that I've NEVER beaten Zote...

Disclaimer: I don't use the beta, I'm waiting for an actual update instead.

Anyway, the trick to Zote is to be grounded, almost every single one of his attacks involves him jumping into the sky and crashing down making a shockwave. If you stay close to the ground and focus on dodging, you can counter him very often. Also be sure to take care of his spawns asap. They die in one hit so it's worth going out of your way to kill them before they clash with zote's attack patterns.

[Arthur]

Originally posted by Sonic_RocketPotatoL62:

Originally posted by Fatal_Fatalis:

It's amazing how the bosses are hard for some people but not for others and vice versa.

To me Uumuu is really easy (If I don't have left 1-2 HP of course) specially after the nerfs, but Zote is an absolute nightmare to fight against. I did almost all binding except the charm binding, with that I've NEVER beaten Zote...

Disclaimer: I don't use the beta, I'm waiting for an actual update instead.

Anyway, the trick to Zote is to be grounded, almost every single one of his attacks involves him jumping into the sky and crashing down making a shockwave. If you stay close to the ground and focus on dodging, you can counter him very often. Also be sure to take care of his spawns asap. They die in one hit so it's worth going out of your way to kill them before they clash with zote's attack patterns.

His spawns are what destroy my life. Sometimes he spits like a ton of them, for no apparent reason, and those jumping ones are so annoying to hit.

[AmusedAce]

Haven't checked yet, but you may still have to fight him even if you let him die. I tested it out with NKG. Banished the troop, then the dream boss battle became an option in the Hall of Gods

[Spitfyre37]

well, I get where you're coming from OP, but to be honest GPZ kinda makes sense to be where he is. If you kill him, you have all of the Uumuu fight to dreamnail + heal and get yourself prepared for Hornet and then Sly. (I died to GPZ over 40 times in that pantheon because i swear, it is 90% impossible to heal during that fight.) But if you think about it, If players never save Zote, they never see the fight until midway through Pantheon 5. I think that kinda balances it out.

[Spitfyre37]

Also, Arti, waht is your deal? Let us mere mortals discuss strategies and work together on stuff, and go do your own thing somewhere else please.

[Fluffiest Princess]

Arti just gets sad when too many people enjoy the game because then it's not exclusive enough for him.

[RocketPotatoL62]

Originally posted by Spitfyre37:

well, I get where you're coming from OP, but to be honest GPZ kinda makes sense to be where he is. If you kill him, you have all of the Uumuu fight to dreamnail + heal and get yourself prepared for Hornet and then Sly. (I died to GPZ over 40 times in that pantheon because i swear, it is 90% impossible to heal during that fight.) But if you think about it, If players never save Zote, they never see the fight until midway through Pantheon 5. I think that kinda balances it out.

Uumuu always gets me, good thing it's not that hard to heal all the way from the brink on the hornet fight.

The only safe time to heal on Zote is when he gets staggered, you can also sometimes get lucky when he does the teleport off screen while falling over, but it''s unreliable.