Grimm Troupe - Bug? - Hive Flame disappeared

[Crusoe]

Hi all, I'm having a bit of an upsetting problem. Having just defeated Grimm, I'm travelling the map to collect the final four flames. I thought four seemed an odd number, since the previous two stages only had three flames to collect each.

First I got the stagway to the Distant village, and entered the egg sac to talk to one of the troupe, and he gave me some flame. Then I went to the Fungal Core in the Fungal Wastes and collected the second. Thirdly, I went to the ancient basin and collected the third. I did it in this order as the two of the flames were in the Basin and the Hive, near to each other. But now that I've collected the Basin flame, the marker on the Hive flame has disappeared completely from the map. I've travelled to the Hive anyway and explored it again completely (I've been before). But the forth and final flame is nowhere to be found. It's no longer on the map and it's for sure nowhere in the Hive.

What the hell is going on? Please help!

NB: I've not included a screenshot since it would just be the map with no flame marker. Also, please do not spoil anything for me, I've been playing blind, no wiki or forums for over 50 hours. But I cannot see that this is anything other than a bug.

[Desticler]

You only need to collect 3. The Deepnest flame can be collected at any time, but if it's not collected as 4th one (and if it is, it does nothing), then the 4th one disappears. It's normal. Just go to Grimm's tent.

[Darc Vader]

There is a reason for 4 showing up, but you only need 3 of them to progress. I believe that if you look at the Grimmchild charm while collecting the flames it only shows 3 slots for them anyway.

[Crusoe]

Originally posted by Darc Vader:

There is a reason for 4 showing up, but you only need 3 of them to progress. I believe that if you look at the Grimmchild charm while collecting the flames it only shows 3 slots for them anyway.

What's the reason? Is it that the distant village one lets you banish the troupe?
If so, I don't see why there would need to be four and have one disappear

[Crusoe]

I'm glad it's not a bug, even if it does seem nonsensical to me. Thanks for your quick and concise help, both of you.

[Darc Vader]

Originally posted by Crusoe:

Originally posted by Darc Vader:

There is a reason for 4 showing up, but you only need 3 of them to progress. I believe that if you look at the Grimmchild charm while collecting the flames it only shows 3 slots for them anyway.

What's the reason? Is it that the distant village one lets you banish the troupe?
If so, I don't see why there would need to be four and have one disappear

Yeah, that's the reason. I don't get why they needed an extra one either, but my guess is that it's the lowest and easiet to miss so it's possible to get the other 3 without noticing the Deepnest flame. Maybe to have a 'secret' ending, though I think it would make more sense to just not have one of the others show up.