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Agenta Oct 24, 2017 @ 4:46pm
Strange Lore Puzzles (SPOILERS)
While in Monomon's Archive, on my way down to Uumuu I found a lore-tablet. This lore tablet contained 2 sets of lines of text. At first glance they appeared jumbled and messed up, with the words being strange to read. I did realize however that they were actually world puzzles. As far as I can tell, and I might be wrong, these puzzles are a paragraph or less of sentences jumbled together with some words changed into nonsense words (like undie instead of revive, or unlive instead of die), letters mixed up, as well as probably the order scrambled. At first glance I thought these were going to be fairly simple, however looking at them later I found them to be much more complicated. There are 3 tablets total. 1 near the start, 2 near Monomon. I was wondering if anyone else has looked at these and potentially tried to solve them, or might be willing to provide assistence. McCramer has made an imgur album containing the images and the text. https://imgur.com/a/jYbYB For simplicty, I'm copy pasting the text here:

Tablet 1
-THIR-YOLK-ABA-ABSENCE-OUTER-SHELL-O-GATE-CONTAIN
LIGHT-EM-VESSEL-EM-EGG-EM-SEAL-THIR-WITHDRAW
EXTERIOR-O-SEAL-WITHIN-DREAMER-INTWIXT-ATWIXT

CONTAIN-LIGHT-THIR-DREAM-CH-ABA-UNGROWTH-CONTAIN-

Tablet 2
-KINGLIGHT-EM-GROWTH-INKIND-FLOW-ALLTHINK-ENFIELD
OLDLIGHT-EM-ESSENCE-EM-DREAM-EM-UNDERGROWTH-O-ENDTHINK-ABA-KINGLIGHT-CH-OLDLIGHT-THEMKIN-

O-CH
THINKFLOW-ABA-DREAM-UNCONTAIN-THIR-UNGROWTH-ENDLIFE

Tablet 3
-OF-ABSENCE-THIR-ABUNDANCE-SHELL-OUTER-O-INNER-PLACE-IN-ABSENCE-THIR-VOID-LIQUID-SUBSTANCE-O-WEAVE-ABSENCE-INNER-O-SHELL-OUTER-THIR-MATER-PEER-CH-VOID-VESSEL-ABSENCE-ALL-OUTER-CONTAIN

If you have any idea on what stuff can mean, go ahead and mention it. I'll post serious theories below.

Theories:
1: Some words appear to be read as you would read them out loud while jumbled, like Thir might be Their or This?
2: Intwixt and Atwixt are most likely Old-English ""atwixt the branches I see an owl"
its kind of like saying, twisted between" That part comes from a friend of mine on steam/discord.
3: Ch and other short ones might be abbreviations for something in game? Not sure about this one, but worth a thought.
Last edited by Agenta; Oct 25, 2017 @ 8:52am
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Darc Vader Oct 24, 2017 @ 7:47pm 
Backstory Spoilers Ahead

The first tablet might be talking about either the Black Egg Temple(Yolk, Outer Shell, Egg, Seal Within, Dreamer) or Vessels/the Hollow Knight(Absence, Shell, Vessel), maybe both, with (who I assume was) Monomon determining how to contain the infection. Potentially the original plan to do so before the discovery of Void in the Abyss.

The second seems to relate to the King, and how he gave sentience to the insects of Hallownest (Kinglight, Allthink), and usurping the Radiance(Essence, Endthink, Oldlight, Ungrowth, Themkin).

The third tablet seems to be about the discovery of the Void and the first thoughts of creating Vessels to contain the Infection

I don't know if they're supposed to be word puzzles, or if they are supposed to be something like corrupted data, with only parts still legible. Maybe they're even supposed to be an old dialect spoken back before the fall of Hallownest that has become much more difficult to parse over time as language evolved or something.
Last edited by Darc Vader; Oct 24, 2017 @ 7:48pm
alon.ori Oct 25, 2017 @ 5:07am 
I agree with most of what Darc Vader wrote
but note that in
Originally posted by Darc Vader:
The first tablet might be talking about either the Black Egg Temple(Yolk, Outer Shell, Egg, Seal Within, Dreamer) or Vessels/the Hollow Knight(Absence, Shell, Vessel), maybe both, with (who I assume was) Monomon determining how to contain the infection. Potentially the original plan to do so before the discovery of Void in the Abyss.
the plan could not have been both before the discovery of the VOID and after the inclusuion of the Hollow knight.

I'm trying to figure what more can be assumed (disscovered?) from those texts,
but this is very deep in speculation (and spoiler) teritory:

Originally posted by Agenta1999:
-THIR-YOLK-ABA-ABSENCE-OUTER-SHELL-O-GATE-CONTAIN
LIGHT-EM-VESSEL-EM-EGG-EM-SEAL-THIR-WITHDRAW
EXTERIOR-O-SEAL-WITHIN-DREAMER-INTWIXT-ATWIXT

CONTAIN-LIGHT-THIR-DREAM-CH-ABA-UNGROWTH-CONTAIN-
the first tablet might be red/understood as:

The yolk-less shell(black egg),
A gate to contain the "Light"(Radiance),
(the "Light") is inside(contained) the Vessel inside the egg inside the seal,
(the seal's) who's exterior(masks) were withdrown into the dreamers(mind/dream realm).

To contain the "light" from (their?) dream, To contain the "ungrowth"(infection?).


Originally posted by Agenta1999:
-KINGLIGHT-EM-GROWTH-INKIND-FLOW-ALLTHINK-ENFIELD
OLDLIGHT-EM-ESSENCE-EM-DREAM-EM-UNDERGROWTH-O-ENDTHINK-ABA-KINGLIGHT-CH-OLDLIGHT-THEMKIN-

O-CH
THINKFLOW-ABA-DREAM-UNCONTAIN-THIR-UNGROWTH-ENDLIFE
the second tablet is less clear but let's try...

The pale king's light "inkind"(bestows?) a "flow" of "allthink"(consciousness?) at?/by? "enfield"(across the king's domain???)
the old light who's (inside?) the essence (inside?) the dream (inside?) the "ungrowth"(infection?)
is akin to the king's light but will "endthink"(degrade the mind of the bugs back??).

if the "thinkflow" from the dream would be "uncontained" now, the "ungrowth" will end their life?


Originally posted by Agenta1999:
-OF-ABSENCE-THIR-ABUNDANCE-SHELL-OUTER-O-INNER-PLACE-IN-ABSENCE-
THIR-VOID-LIQUID-SUBSTANCE-O-WEAVE-ABSENCE-INNER-O-SHELL-OUTER-THIR-
MATER-PEER-CH-VOID-VESSEL-ABSENCE-ALL-OUTER-CONTAIN
The third is a jumbled, disturbing mess, but the best I can gather is : (warning, kinda dark)

OF-ABSENCE-THIR-ABUNDANCE-SHELL-OUTER:
The "abundance" of these(siblings?) "shells" is "of absence"(an offering?/befitting? for the void???)

INNER-PLACE-IN-ABSENCE:
can be either:
they are put into the "inner place, inside the absence"(the Abyss??)
or:
their (innards?) are (already) "absent"(removed?)

THIR-VOID-LIQUID-SUBSTANCE-O-WEAVE-ABSENCE-INNER-O-SHELL-OUTER:
the(their???) "VOID liquid" is pure "woven absence" woven to the inside of their shells??

THIR-MATER-PEER-CH-VOID-VESSEL-ABSENCE-ALL-OUTER-CONTAIN
I can't even construct this into a proper sentence,
but maybe the VOID is their "Mater"(mother) in this referance,
And the VOID is a "peer"(equal) to the light that is to be contained inside the "vessel",
Who's total emptiness can contain "all"(the dream?/infection?) inside it's shell.

Edit: One more point I'm wondering about, though not specific to this text:

Was it just the next logical step for the king,
after trying to create artificial vessels for the VOID with limited success,
To try and use some "natural materials"...



BTW, can someone move this to "Spoiler discussion"?
Last edited by alon.ori; Oct 25, 2017 @ 5:32am
Darc Vader Oct 25, 2017 @ 8:25am 
Yeah, I probably could have phrased that first part better. I was giving those as two different possibilities, not as one theory that wouldn’t work because timelines
Agenta Oct 25, 2017 @ 8:52am 
I'm guessing it would be a bad idea for me to read the Spoiler-texts before I finish the game?
Darc Vader Oct 25, 2017 @ 9:12am 
That would probably be smart. Some aren't major spoilers, but there's no way to distinguish them from those that are without reading them.
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