Grey Prince Zote FAQ [minor spoilers]

[Dan]

Saw a few people asking many of the same questions about the new content. This thread contains minor spoilers about the fight, obviously.

Unlocking
To enable the fight you need to defeat Zote in the Coliseum of Fools'. He will appear in a cage, and be the boss of the first tier of the arena, after you have saved him twice (from the Vengefly, and again in Deepnest).

Location
To access the fight, you need to save Bretta from the Fungal Wastes. If Zote has been defeated in the arena and Bretta has been rescued, then a trapdoor to her basement will appear, where she has built a shrine to Zote.

Tactics
You can fight Grey Prince Zote multiple times. However, he gains new attacks the first few times, and does one more damage each time as well. People have reported that he can do enough damage to one-hit kill you if you're not careful. Some attacks, such as his Zotelings, only do about half damage (minimum of 1) compared to his contact or sword damage. In some cases, his fake-out dash slam has hit me and only dealt 1 damage from the front, where most of his attacks were otherwise doing 7 or 8 damage.

As far as charms go, I have had great success early on by using the Quick Focus charm to learn his attacks, but ultimately it quickly becomes useless since it takes so much effort to heal from the huge damage he does. A better option might be Lifeblood charms to extend your life bar, and avoid healing altogether.

I consider Quick Slash a must. In combination with Longnail and Mark of Pride, you can safely hit him from a short range without worrying about a sudden dash hurting you. It also makes swatting his minions a lot easier. I found the most dangerous attack was when he does his sword flailing, since it comes at you so quickly, a dash can't always escape it. However, when he flops over, he is vulnerable for a few seconds, so I've found Desolate Dive to be useful here, which means a magic build might be viable too.

Overall, he's not too hard as far as bosses go, once you get his patterns down. Just be defensive and let him come to you. He has a lot of goofy attacks that you need to read so you don't get tricked by them.

[Machines Are Human]

tbh. he was pretty easy to kill. if you are in endgame you can pretty much tank him.
would have nice to get some reward for killing him though

[DerBurglar]

Originally posted by Machines Are Human:

tbh. he was pretty easy to kill. if you are in endgame you can pretty much tank him.
would have nice to get some reward for killing him though

Your comment suggests that you didn't read the post all the way through and have only fought him once lol. You can't "tank him" later on.

[Dan]

There also isn't much of a point beyond fighting him a few times, either.

[nickwithtea]

Originally posted by Dan:

There also isn't much of a point beyond fighting him a few times, either.

You can't verify that yet. As the devs did state they included some 'extras' in the update. It may be directly related to defeating them multiple times or there may be more hidden secrets throughout the world.

[Tuskai]

Originally posted by nick:

Originally posted by Dan:

There also isn't much of a point beyond fighting him a few times, either.

You can't verify that yet. As the devs did state they included some 'extras' in the update. It may be directly related to defeating them multiple times or there may be more hidden secrets throughout the world.

I've beaten him eleven times, you get nothing but a greater challange past the first clear, so......... No, there isn't any point beyond fighting him a few times. There is no achivement, there is no dialogue change, there is nothing but MOAR DAMAGE, and eventually More health.

[nickwithtea]

Originally posted by Tuskai:

Originally posted by nick:

You can't verify that yet. As the devs did state they included some 'extras' in the update. It may be directly related to defeating them multiple times or there may be more hidden secrets throughout the world.

I've beaten him eleven times, you get nothing but a greater challange past the first clear, so......... No, there isn't any point beyond fighting him a few times. There is no achivement, there is no dialogue change, there is nothing but MOAR DAMAGE, and eventually More health.

Lol? And what about the rest of the game world? Have you explored every inch to see if something changed or unlocked? Doubt it. They said they included extras so there is extras somewhere - even if not directly related to the two bosses

[Tuskai]

Originally posted by nick:

Originally posted by Tuskai:

I've beaten him eleven times, you get nothing but a greater challange past the first clear, so......... No, there isn't any point beyond fighting him a few times. There is no achivement, there is no dialogue change, there is nothing but MOAR DAMAGE, and eventually More health.

Lol? And what about the rest of the game world? Have you explored every inch to see if something changed or unlocked? Doubt it. They said they included extras so there is extras somewhere - even if not directly related to the two bosses

I'm just gonna post the patch notes.

NEW FEATURES (HIDDEN DREAMS)

- New Upgrade: Dreamgate
- Two new bosses
- Two new music tracks
- New Stag Station

PATCH NOTES

- The barrier between Hallownest and Dream has weakened. Essence can be gathered by defeating enemies.
- Enemy placement changes in City of Tears
- Boss title fixes
- Failed Tramway is only fully mapped once Tram Pass is acquired
- Removed toll gate in Deepnest
- Audio changes in Blue Lake
- Cyclone Slash increased size, reduced knockback, reduced anticipation and recovery time
- Increased damage for Glowing Womb hatchlings
- Increased damage for Flukenest flukes
- Landing in water no longer freezes Knight in place during splash animation
- A foe became slightly deadlier
- Fixed an issue where thorn charm hitbox could stay on between scenes, if player took damage then immediately entered a door
- Fixed issue where player could become trapped under lift in Stag Nest
- Fixed issue where using Quick Map at bench could lock game
- Fixed breakable wall in mines playing audio without mixer specified
- Fixed issue where ‘Charm Broken’ message could display incorrectly
- Fixed issue where Soul Warrior could cause a ‘tink’ effect on its Battle Gate

- Additional small fixes
- Additional effects
- Optimisations to object fader code
- Various small scene changes
- Various slight map updates
- Various boss fixes

There is no mention of this "Secret Hidden Content". There never was any mention of "Secret Extras" in any of the teasers or patch notes or anything, so I don't even get where you're coming from with the rudeness.

[Humdrum Sebby]

I found the easiest way to deal with the flailing sword is to just pogo him. I tried just dashing away but I wasn't able to dodge the attack still. Maybe using the Dash Master charm would make it manageable, but I think pogoing is the best tactic there.

[256MB of SPAM]

Originally posted by Tuskai:

Originally posted by nick:

You can't verify that yet. As the devs did state they included some 'extras' in the update. It may be directly related to defeating them multiple times or there may be more hidden secrets throughout the world.

I've beaten him eleven times, you get nothing but a greater challange past the first clear, so......... No, there isn't any point beyond fighting him a few times. There is no achivement, there is no dialogue change, there is nothing but MOAR DAMAGE, and eventually More health.

Same, I beat it 10 times, I think? My statue is golden and all candles are lit. My last encounter was where he could kill you in one hit (man was that a pain).

So that's it? It's just repeating the 10th fight again?

I just need to know that it's done, lol.

[wataniyob]

Originally posted by Tuskai:

There is no mention of this "Secret Hidden Content". There never was any mention of "Secret Extras" in any of the teasers or patch notes or anything, so I don't even get where you're coming from with the rudeness.

Actually, they did:

http://teamcherry.com.au/hidden-dreams-update-mods-summer-games-done-quick-mods/

They explicitly said they "may have managed to squeeze a few unannounced little surprises in" when announcing the change to August 3rd for the release date of the content update.

In fact, besides the two new bosses, the dream gate ability, and the new stag station there have been two new things found:

- Nosk now has two new extra attacks.
- Revek now attacks you in the Glade of Hope if you dream nail any of the spirits.

[StealthBomber]

I rescued both of them but the basement isn't opening...

[Kein Zantezuken]

You need to fight Zote in Colosseum first

[StealthBomber]

Originally posted by Kein Zantezuken:

You need to fight Zote in Colosseum first

Yeah, I did and he's back in town.

[Kein Zantezuken]

Do you have double-jump?

[StealthBomber]

Originally posted by Kein Zantezuken:

Do you have double-jump?

Yep