What is the best charm build to Trial of Fools?

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I'm stuck in this last 1% for 5 hours, how you beat this trial?

[SenMithrarin85]

hiveblood and nailmaster's glory are a must. the spelltwister can be useful too. grubsong and the dreamnail charm can also help with boosting soul accumulation.

The important thing though is to not attempt it without a fully upgraded nail and at least the charged slash nail art. Its a LOT easier if you can one-shot the flying enemies once the floor gives way towards then end (nailmaster will allow you to charge nail arts faster)

[Nibbie]

I used something like quick focus/quick nail/nailmaster's glory/stalwart shell/shape of unn. I couldn't figure out how Hiveblood worked so didn't use it, but it is pretty helpful for no-floor parts. Having your nail be 1 away from max at most is pretty much required, and using charged slash to 1-shot all the shooters and mosquitoes is what finally broke me through. Lastly, when you get to it, you can focus down the pet first, the rider is technically optional and easy to dodge.

[Dan]

As far as I can tell, Hiveblood will recover the last hit only, and takes 10 seconds to do so? I never used it much, but I always took damage too quickly for it to even heal once. Waste of a charm slot, but it's a good crutch in platforming areas.

I like to use Quick Focus and/or Quick Nail. You should strongly consider maxing your weapon out, and possibly using Fragile Strength (you could always quit at 1 HP if you're concerned about it breaking).

The no floor part isn't too bad if you're okay at platforming (it sounds like you've completed White Palace), so you can manage. Don't forget that if you miss an enemy, you can still do a downward stab onto the spikes to reset your jumping abilities, too!

After completing it for the 4th time, I realized the charge attacks (great slash?) is fantastic during this part if you have enough damage to kill things in one use of it. Great against the Baldur charger flies

[Darc Vader]

I found what worked best for me was Soul Eater/Spell Twister/Shaman Stone/Nailmaster's Glory.

Nailmaster's Glory is invaluable for dealing with the aspids, and the rest are just to get the most out of spells(Spell Twister is especially useful as it lets you spam more descending darks and you can basically i-frame your way through things like the Brooding Mawlek)

Quick slash could also be useful, especially for the boss, but it doesn't really help at all with the floorless part (the hardest part by far imo).

Mark of Pride/Longnail are useful but not really necessary, as they don't affect the nail arts which can basically replace normal attacks with Nailmaster's Glory

Of course there are other charms that would be useful but I didn't have enough slots and highly value the spell charms over basically all the others. Stalwart Shell, Deep Focus(most of the time if it's safe to heal the extra time won't matter too much and you save a lot of soul), Shape of Unn, Sharp Shadow(extra range on Shade Cloak makes it useful even if the damage isn't the best), Grubberfly's Elegy(if you can get to full health the beams are helpful in dealing with aspids)

Overall though, I think full spell build + Nailmaster's Glory(or possibly Grubsong if you don't want to use nail arts) is the best way to go.

[pharmy]

I used the charm to get more souls from attacking, the breakable charm that increases your attack power, the spike charm that spikes enemies when they attack you, and the charm to heal faster. Trial three took me a bunch of tries its intense felt so good to beat it but there was no reward other than geo which kind of sucks

[JapanGamer29]

I did it without using nail arts. My charms were: Quick Slash, Stalwart Shell, Mark of Pride, Thorns of Agony and Steady Body.

It was really, really hard.

[KKiller]

Quick Slash + Thorns of Agony + Nailmasters Glory + Stalwart Shell + Mark of Pride

That was my combination.

Good luck

[RedPirate]

I went for full attack
Max health + max soul + max nail
Fragile Strength, Longnail, Mark of pride, sharp shadow
I mandged a win on first try

[Neocronic]

Just use same build like for Radiance.

Lifeblood Core
Shamen Stone
Joni's Blessing

Spam Abyss Shriek on all enemies for huge damage, when no floor waves starts you can use A spam attacks, this attack with shamen stone almost one shot everything. Also with that build you have 18+ masks and can beat that no floor wave easily. Just don't waste masks on other enemies.
For God Tamer just use Abyss Shriek on pet, after 5-6 uses pet died and you win.

[Darc Vader]

The problem with that for the arena is that Abyss Shriek won't hit grounded enemies reliably, and to hit them with it consistently you need to get close. That will just get you hit, since AS has no i-frames and because of Joni's you can't recover from it.

[Neocronic]

Originally posted by Darc Vader:

The problem with that for the arena is that Abyss Shriek won't hit grounded enemies reliably, and to hit them with it consistently you need to get close. That will just get you hit, since AS has no i-frames and because of Joni's you can't recover from it.

Use spell after dodging any attack. You need only one attack for most enemies.

[Darc Vader]

Originally posted by Neocronic:

Originally posted by Darc Vader:

The problem with that for the arena is that Abyss Shriek won't hit grounded enemies reliably, and to hit them with it consistently you need to get close. That will just get you hit, since AS has no i-frames and because of Joni's you can't recover from it.

Use spell after dodging any attack. You need only one attack for most enemies.

But the angle for the attack means you need to be close to any non flying enemies and Abyss Shriek is likely to pull the enemy into you if the first hit doesn't kill, which is weaker than Shade Soul as far as I remember.

[CJones]

The only REALLY obnoxious part, for me anyway, is the part where there's no floor. The Trial of the Fool isn't that much worse than the 2nd Trial, except for this BS part. So yeah, prepare for this part. Hiveblood is great since you can't heal with no floor. Nailmasters Glory lets you one-shot most flying enemies with Great Slash, which is key to the no-floor segment since all the enmies in that part fly.

Other than those two, I would suggest either Shaman Stone + Spelltwister, or Quick Slash + Stallwart Shell.

If I'm remembering the numbers right, that should be 10 charm notches

[Darc Vader]

I found Hiveblood not too useful for that part honestly. It takes so long to heal that it's really easier to just go for killing them as fast as possible (which you have there with shaman stone and nailmaster's, but still)

[CJones]

Originally posted by Darc Vader:

I found Hiveblood not too useful for that part honestly. It takes so long to heal that it's really easier to just go for killing them as fast as possible (which you have there with shaman stone and nailmaster's, but still)

Good point.