Final nail upgrade needs buff

[Momar]

Anyone else feel like the last nail upgrade is highly unimpressive? i spent my entire game working towards it, and i cant really see a difference between lvl 3 and lvl 4, kind of a let down.

[.//slayer]

It's as good as any previous upgrade. You spend one less hit on certain enemies, and it's very helpful. The most important thing for me personally was 2-shotting the flying wasps that shoot you with triple orange projectiles. At nail level 3, you need 3 hits to kill them. This helps in the Colosseum, because the Trial of Fool features a lot of these enemies.

[Hursti]

^ what he said. also, some bosses require LOTS of hits, and having the best nail cuts down time required to beat them by a noticable amount.

[♿ Сукаdэlic ム]

My biggest gripe is that there is no visual effect upgrade. Also I wish there was something to spend money on a bit later on in the game, I have 16k and nothing to use it on but the last notch upgrade. A bit OT I know

[Broso]

The upgrade IS lackluster. Still can't take out many of the lesser grunts in one hit. Lame!

[Redd]

Agreed on the visual upgrade.

eg.
Old Nail == Reddish.
Channeled Nail == Dim green.
Spiral Nail == Bright blue.
Pure Nail == Pure white. Like, blindingly white.

Like how fire works in real life! The whiter the hotter!

[iHypno]

Completed the game with the lvl 2 nail. Feels like it still was fairly easy to down the bosses.

[Gharon]

Yeah, it's nitpicking on the highest level but it "did" bother me that there was no visual feedback of your weapon getting stronger... ever. A slight variation in color would be enough and more than welcome. Maybe it can be added in some future patch.

[velocipeder80]

Each boss has a certain number of hp.

Example: The Mantis lord in total has 50 hp

Old nail will need 50 hits, Channel nail need 25 hits, Spiral nail need 17 hits, Pure nail need 14 and lastly Pure nail with fragile strength need 10 hits.

As you can see there is a bit of diminishing as the nail get upgraded for boss.

Try using the Old nail for the Mantis lord .. It is doable but can you survive so long without any mistake??

[jckdrllng]

Originally posted by Cernunnos:

Agreed on the visual upgrade.

eg.
Old Nail == Reddish.
Channeled Nail == Dim green.
Spiral Nail == Bright blue.
Pure Nail == Pure white. Like, blindingly white.

Like how fire works in real life! The whiter the hotter!

Just saying, that's not quite how fire works. The hotter something is, the bluer the light that it gives off.
(here's a chart)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/PlanckianLocus.png

[jack shite]

Final nail upgrade is definitely a let-down. Those flying bees with swords that you encounter in the arena still take four hits to kill (I don't recall them taking five hits prior to the upgrade). As someone else said, some of the enemies that took two hits before still take two hits. Perhaps it was nerfed in an update at some point.

[Darc Vader]

As far as I know, each nail upgrade is worth the exact same amount. You get 4 extra damage each time. It feels so much less impactful later game because instead of going from 5 damage (old) to 9 (sharpened), an 80% increase in damage, with the first upgrade, you are going from 17 (coiled) to 21 (pure), which is only a 23.5% increase. While it's not worth as much at that point, it's still essentially a fifth hit on an enemy for every 4 you land, which cuts down time spent on bosses with larger health pools significantly.

[God's Chosen Procrastinator]

Originally posted by velocipeder80:

Each boss has a certain number of hp.

Example: The Mantis lord in total has 50 hp

Old nail will need 50 hits, Channel nail need 25 hits, Spiral nail need 17 hits, Pure nail need 14 and lastly Pure nail with fragile strength need 10 hits.

As you can see there is a bit of diminishing as the nail get upgraded for boss.

Try using the Old nail for the Mantis lord .. It is doable but can you survive so long without any mistake??

Actually, the starting nail does 5 points of damage and each upgrade adds four points of damage.
The first Mantis Lord has 210 HP.
Old Nail does 5 damage, 210/5 = 42 uncharged slashes.
Sharpened Nail does 9 damage, 210/9 = 24 uncharged slashes (rounded up from 23.333, as slashes are whole numbers)
Channeled Nail does 13 damage, 210/13 = 17 uncharged slashes (rounded up from 16.154)
Coiled Nail does 17 damage, 210/17 = 13 uncharged slashes (rounded up from 12.353)
And the final upgrade, the Pure Nail, does 21 damage. 210/21 = 10 uncharged slashes.

By the time I encountered the Mantis Lords, I had the Sharpened Nail and the Great Slash, which does 2.5x your current nail's damage.

[Dan]

You can get the charm from all the grubs if you want a legend of zelda-esque beam blade

[ScorchedVanilla]

if you ask me you should be grateful you can even be able to upgrade the nail cause some bosses take way too long if you dont upgrade the nail(rip pure nail dream due to sub 30fps computer,its 5 years old and i got no cash for upgrades)