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Antera 2017 年 4 月 20 日 下午 1:47
Any chance this coming to VITA?
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最后由 Antera 编辑于; 2017 年 4 月 20 日 下午 1:51
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Boink 2017 年 4 月 22 日 下午 6:56 
Oh, and if you want a real lesson in the market, S&S and Hello Knight fall under a rather new category (for the marketeers, not the players, derp) where platform support is actually part of their appeal.

With metrovanias / roguealikes you tend to fire them up, play, put them down... then return 6-18months later and replay them (esp. the quality ones like DS / FTL etc). They have a natural cycle to them that can help your hardware brand (and, of course, Nethack has been going for 15+ years now, and any serious Player tends to get that itch every few years...)

Basically, it's a new concept for the HARDWARE manufacturers since suddenly if you have these type of niche games on your format it extends the life of your product by at least 18 months, which can be worth $100's of millions (in terms of outlay / production / design / marketing etc for a new platform).

That's the real reason S&S is getting a Vita port: SONY are finally learning a lesson. Four years too late, but hey.

It's not as if their CEOs get paid multi-million saleries and stock options to play golf is it? .... oh.
最后由 Boink 编辑于; 2017 年 4 月 22 日 下午 6:59
Damos 2017 年 4 月 22 日 下午 7:06 
Your answers are completely off topic and a mix of extreme stubbornness, inability to concede the obvious, and pseudo technico crap. I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about COD marketing budget and low cost x-platform stock drain this or that, and I dont think anyone else does... This is absolutely pathetic and borderline delusional, you should get some help, seriously!

Until then, we're gonna stick with the facts if you don't mind!

-You claim that Hollow Knight could not be ported on PS Vita >>> Wrong

-You claim that PS Vita is a dead platform >>>> Wrong

And since we know that a PS4 version is coming later this year, and that the Kickstarter campain had PS Vita port as one of its stretch goals, I would say chances are very high to see Hollow Knight come to Vita :)
Boink 2017 年 4 月 22 日 下午 7:18 
引用自 Damos
Your answers are completely off topic and a mix of extreme stubbornness, inability to concede the obvious, and pseudo technico crap. I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about COD marketing budget and low cost x-platform stock drain this or that, and I dont think anyone else does... This is absolutely pathetic and borderline delusional, you should get some help, seriously!

Until then, we're gonna stick with the facts if you don't mind!

-You claim that Hollow Knight could not be ported on PS Vita >>> Wrong

-You claim that PS Vita is a dead platform >>>> Wrong

And since we know that a PS4 version is coming later this year, and that the Kickstarter campain had PS Vita port as one of its stretch goals, I would say chances are very high to see Hollow Knight come to Vita :)


I rarely meet fanboys, but it's such a pleasure and joy to see them in the wild[1] The Vita had 22 games released for it in 2016

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016-ps4-ps3-ps-vita-video-game-release-date-page/

Steam released > 4207 games in 2016 alone on its platform. Yeah, I'm thinking you need some perspective. Anyhow, good luck to the fanboy who reported all my posts to get me banned - such a mature little snowflake.

Oh, and just checked:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/11662585/hollow-knight

The Vita port missed by ~AU$19,000 and comes with the proviso: "* Subject to approval from Sony! We have spoken to them and started the process to become Sony Developers. Guess what Salt & Sanctuary HAS that Hollow Knight does NOT?

Yep, that'd be a SONY DEVELOPER CONTRACT.

Literally little child wasting my time, who doesn't even understand business when it's laid out for him on the kickstarter page.

Oh, and fun fact: S&S launched on the PS4 in 2016. It took until 2017 for a Vita port to be announced, which suggests their focus was 100% on PS4 sales, with Vita merely being a small blip on the tail end.

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TL;DR

Turns out I know what I'm talking about. HK won't get ported until they get a contract like S&S, which is still under discussion.

Go figure.

https://twitter.com/TeamCherryGames/status/837173551501189120

1st March - meaning they're still working out contracts and nothing is set in stone yet: I strongly suspect S&S and other titles will be used as a metric for Vita support.

[1] No, it's not: you've totally ignored the substance of the post, backed up with real data.
最后由 Boink 编辑于; 2017 年 4 月 22 日 下午 7:33
Damos 2017 年 4 月 22 日 下午 8:02 
Fanboy of what? I don't even own a Vita or a Sony hardware man... -_-

And no, there wasn't just 22 games released for Vita on 2016, check your "real data". You're "spouting non-sense" again but that has to be expected by now. It's just sad that you would think I'm a fanboy simply because I'm opposing actual facts to your fantasy.

But anyway, I'm done with you.
Some people truly can't be helped and I'm not a social worker. Though I tried but my patience has its limits. I just hope the mods can come in and clean this thread that you completely derailed with your toxicity.

It's time to get back on the topic and yes : Hollow Knight may very well be coming to PS Vita later this year or in 2018! Everything indicates it, from the future PS4 version to the kickstarter campain stretch goal. But we don't have more info for now :)

I'm out!

Edit > https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/all-ps-vita-games/cid=STORE-MSF77008-PSVITAALLGAMES%7C%7C/1

This is the official US Playstation Store listing all the PS Vita games sorted by release date. Read carefully : the 2016 releases start from around beginning of page 2 and go almost to the end of page 6. Got it? Ok, here comes the tricky part : There is 30 games per page. I'll let you do the maths. But hint and pro-tip©: it's more than 22.
最后由 Damos 编辑于; 2017 年 4 月 23 日 上午 5:06
Boink 2017 年 4 月 22 日 下午 8:21 
引用自 Damos
But we don't have more info for now :)

I'm out!


Seriously?

https://i.imgur.com/iAXpm1n.jpg

That's a Reddit compiled list: good luck finding a major Western Publishing company in that list of 2016, and good luck being able to find more than 20 in a Western market-place.


Literally lying.
tommapar 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 4:55 
Welp, after reading all coments on this post and doing some research the only reasonable conclusions that you can draw are the following:

- Maybe it comes to the Vita maybe it doesn't. It's up to Sony and the devs to figure it out.
- It would work perfectly on the Vita.
- Boink is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, instead of starting a civilized argument he just threw some specs to start with and told you to "stop smoking crack" after that he acted like Damos was attacking him, and just kept on throwing random numbers and information that in his tiny mind proved he was right but it had nothing to do with what Damos was saying. To put it in similar words to his "the toxicity, it burns"
- The Vita while not dead is doing very poorly in numbers for Sony here in the west.
- Even though it's doing very poorly it has an awesome community and the modding scene is not bad either.
Chariot_ 2017 年 6 月 22 日 下午 8:49 
It's glad to see somebody shares the same mind!
Hollow Knight seems to be a game suitable to play on Vita.
Village Idiot 2017 年 6 月 23 日 上午 12:09 
It won't surprise me if Vita devs move over to the Switch.

The Vita is a dead handheld, even in Japan. Its too weak now and PS4 ports have to be degraded for many games in order to get it to run on it. The Switch is perfect as its more powerful than the Vita and its a handheld, so it will attract the Japanese devs.

Btw, this game is coming out for the Switch in another month or two.
最后由 Village Idiot 编辑于; 2017 年 6 月 23 日 上午 12:10
Antera 2017 年 6 月 23 日 上午 2:51 
It would be great if there will be VITA 2 one day
最后由 Antera 编辑于; 2017 年 6 月 23 日 上午 2:51
jaxjags2100 2017 年 6 月 23 日 上午 3:46 
It's coming to the Switch, can't wait!
Larry 2017 年 6 月 23 日 上午 4:08 
引用自 Antera
It would be great if there will be VITA 2 one day

It's called the Nintendo Switch. lol
5PL45H_D4M4G3 2017 年 6 月 23 日 下午 10:18 
引用自 Damos
引用自 Boink
Minimum specs

OS: Windows 7
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E5200
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Graphics: GeForce 9800GTX+ (1GB)
DirectX: Version 10
Storage: 9 GB available space


Vita has: Quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore processor w/ quad-core SGX543MP4+ GPU; 512MB RAM with 128MB VRAM


Please stop smoking crack, or at the very least understand what hardware / GPUs do.

What an agressive answer for no reason, and stupid as well! You're wrong on every count!

1) The game wouldn't run on the same resolution on a handheld device like PS Vita. So it wouldn't need anything close to the minimum specs for PC. If you "understand what hardware/ GPUs do" then you should know that, seriously... Here is an example of the game running smooth @704x400 on a GPD Win : Link

2) Porting the game on PS Vita was actually one of the stretch goals from the initial kickstarter campain. So not only its realistic to ask about it, it's something actually considered by Team Cherry. You can check for yourself here![ksr-ugc.imgix.net]

To OP> No news about it recently, they seem focused on the Switch for now
+Respect
CaL 2018 年 4 月 19 日 上午 6:21 
引用自 Boink
引用自 Damos

I don't know why you always have to be so assertive ("It's a dead platform.") when you are clearly uninformed..


There's a reason COD sells X million copies and has a marketing budget (alone) of $100 mil+. In fact, many AAA games these days have $100mil + advertizing budgets.

Hint: if your advertizing budget is >*10 of the actual number of units sold, you're not going to dev for it.

That's a fairly obvious lesson there, my little child.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/salt-and-sanctuary-ps4/

引用自 Damos
Salt and Sanctuary just did it last month! (link[store.playstation.com])

See above: the Salt & Sanctuary deal included Vita code as a bargaining chip to entry to market. i.e. SONY either paid, or waivered certain %percentage cuts of profit margins in return for a popular title being ported across. i.e. low cost x-platform support to justify the platform (now... 5+ years old, LOL). It's a strategic move to prevent stock drain / quarterly panic. i.e. nothing to do with really supporting the platform.

You really don't know how business works, do you?

Hint: Salt & Sanctuary devs really don't care about the Vita port, but it's likely SONY made it a conditional - depending on their bargaining nouse / how competent their lawyers were with the contract.

PS4 total sales: 50+ million. That's why they're porting it, it was probably demanded as an access right to publish on SONY's flagship.

I could see a niche market argument holding up... if anyone had actually bought the Vita.

They didn't. Any hand-held, esp. in today's world of netbooks, notebooks and so on needs to be able to offer more than the competition. It didn't.

https://a9droid.com/how-to-play-salt-and-sanctuary-on-android-ios/

October 24, 2016

OOOPS.

It runs on Android and iOs already. Now grow up and learn something, or just be quiet. SONY are late to this game and you're spouting nonsense. Talk about being late to the frakking party.

~

TL:DR

Education, for free. Stup up, Listen, Learn.


@Boink: "Education, for free. Stup up, Listen, Learn. "
Maybe you ought to take your own advice.

Boink 2018 年 4 月 19 日 下午 12:20 
引用自 CaL

@Boink: "Education, for free. Stup up, Listen, Learn. "
Maybe you ought to take your own advice.


A year later there has been no release even hinted at for the PS Vita.

If you meant Nintendo Switch, then sure:

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch-download-software/Hollow-Knight-1125772.html


The two systems are completely different.




引用自 CaL
Maybe you ought to take your own advice.


Well. Don't have to if it's correct in the first place, yes?
AlterMinD 2018 年 5 月 9 日 上午 5:23 
引用自 Village Idiot
It won't surprise me if Vita devs move over to the Switch.

The Vita is a dead handheld, even in Japan. Its too weak now and PS4 ports have to be degraded for many games in order to get it to run on it. The Switch is perfect as its more powerful than the Vita and its a handheld, so it will attract the Japanese devs.

Btw, this game is coming out for the Switch in another month or two.

Trust me that thing's hardly a handheld you don't wanna bring it with you outside unless you are carrying a bag of some type all the time. Vita on the other hand is a pocket friendly.
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