What are the advantages of Almace or Bastard sword over fully upgraded Steel Beak for mystic knight?

[Frosty Mist]

I'm currently up to the "Deny Salvation" part and was thinking whether Almace would be useful against the dragon at the end after that one due to it being an ice focused sword.

Now as for Bastard sword in general, it seems to have higher stats than silver rapier enough and I'm able to use it as Mystic Knight. What would give it advantages to my Steel Beak which is fully upgraded?

Are there any swords Mystic Knights can use which have higher stats than Steel Beak too?

[gammav]

Perma enchant weapon always better with Great cannon IF enemy weak to the element. So ye, Almace sword.

[zadymek]

1. Almace is not useful against your boss. Unless enchanted with Dark. And as MK you can enchant weapons so...

2. Steel Beak will be very useful, especially if you'll stack Dark enchantment and Abyssal Anguish. Generally permanenently enchanted weapons are only good if you have no time to enchant your weapons, or when upgraded to the ceiling and then enchanted.

3. Yes, there are swords (and maces) with higher stats. And your weapons aren't fully upgraded unless they are Dragon F...spoiler alert. Anyway, I suppose you have the best weapons available at this point in the game. Anyway, as MK you have more than enough to deal with your target.

[EPDC ChaosAvatar1]

Originally posted by gammav:

Perma enchant weapon always better with Great cannon IF enemy weak to the element. So ye, Almace sword.

actually if the weapon has the perma enchant like the chilling razors or edens wrath it dosnt afect magic cannon

[Nyu]

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

Originally posted by gammav:

Perma enchant weapon always better with Great cannon IF enemy weak to the element. So ye, Almace sword.

actually if the weapon has the perma enchant like the chilling razors or edens wrath it dosnt afect magic cannon

spreading false informations

"Great Cannon does both physical and magickal damage and scales very approximately with a 2:3 split of the caster's Strength and Magick stats. Thus both strength and magick boosting potions and charms increase damage. Enchanting the summoning weapon prior to casting the sigil increases the sigil's damage.

The magick damage is thought to depend in a ratio of 3:1 on the caster's base and weapon magicks.
The physical damage depends only on the weapon's attack strength, omitting the wielder's base strength.
The physical portion always deals Blunt Damage.
Since the Great Cannon scales from both magick and strength, it performs a split-damage attack against both damage thresholds."

the magic stats of the weapon affect the skill.
these weapons have magic stats

only against high magic residence (metal golem) a weapon with magic stats is worse.

EDIT: SOURCE: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Cannon
still better to extra enchant for the additional bonus damage even when using perma enchanted weapons.

[EPDC ChaosAvatar1]

it dosnt afect as in it dosnt enchant the cannon with the perma enchant of edens wrath

[zadymek]

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

it dosnt afect as in it dosnt enchant the cannon with the perma enchant of edens wrath

What's edens wrath?

[Nyu]

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

it dosnt afect as in it dosnt enchant the cannon with the perma enchant of edens wrath

again misinformation
litterally read the wiki or test it yourself.
it applies the element of perma enchanted weapons, just not visuel.
holy hell kids never listen.

Originally posted by zadymek:

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

it dosnt afect as in it dosnt enchant the cannon with the perma enchant of edens wrath

What's edens wrath?

WARDEN, he just spams things without knowing them.
he means the firesword i guess.

[EPDC ChaosAvatar1]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

it dosnt afect as in it dosnt enchant the cannon with the perma enchant of edens wrath

What's edens wrath?

not sure when it unlocks but its a sword that does mainly magic damage with a perma fire enchant, you get it from the blacksmith
EDIT so i was wrong its edens warden and, even tho you CAN get it from the blacksmith it can also be a drop from a few things like golems and some of the surian verients, source is the wiki page

[zadymek]

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

even tho you CAN get it from the blacksmith it can also be a drop from a few things like golems and some of the surian verients, source is the wiki page

Idk about yours but my wiki says that it DOESN'T drop from golem. Or saurians.
In general equipment doesn't drop from enemies in DDDA.

[Nyu]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

even tho you CAN get it from the blacksmith it can also be a drop from a few things like golems and some of the surian verients, source is the wiki page

Idk about yours but my wiki says that it DOESN'T drop from golem. Or saurians.
In general equipment doesn't drop from enemies in DDDA.

he always talks nonsense.
you see the enchanting material droplist. he sees some random things and makes his own fantasy about it.
every post of with gameknowledge ends like that.

like you said, weapons dont drop from enemies

[EPDC ChaosAvatar1]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

even tho you CAN get it from the blacksmith it can also be a drop from a few things like golems and some of the surian verients, source is the wiki page

Idk about yours but my wiki says that it DOESN'T drop from golem. Or saurians.
In general equipment doesn't drop from enemies in DDDA.

yep, guess i was loopy or some ♥♥♥♥, i checked it again, i still woudnt have even SAID it if a certain someone would stop complaining that i dont read the wiki, and somehow when i do i misread it

[Nyu]

Originally posted by ChaosAvatar1:

Originally posted by zadymek:

Idk about yours but my wiki says that it DOESN'T drop from golem. Or saurians.
In general equipment doesn't drop from enemies in DDDA.

yep, guess i was loopy or some ♥♥♥♥, i checked it again, i still woudnt have even SAID it if a certain someone would stop complaining that i dont read the wiki, and somehow when i do i misread it

maybe stop answring specific things if you dont have gameknowledge. no one is helped with that.
learn the game like other did and hare your wisdom afterwards.
no one needs lazy infos from looking on a website

if you would not spread misinformations i wouldnt tell you to stop it.