Edmun Dragonsbane

[noir_7]

sux.
...I wonder if he gave himself that last name or if was a title created for him?
anyway, I don't care about that.

My question is we never meet his pawn(s) right? And no pawns allowed in the castle for reasons so where could his pawn be?
Randomly floating in the Rift? Kept alive in some hidden tomb?
Probably wouldn't want a chatty pawn taking about his dragon deal so how would a mental case like the duke deal with that?

[Snowskeeper]

It was probably created for him, after he claimed to have killed it.

I think it's implied his pawn is the Jester?

[noir_7]

Feste huh, it'd be a interesting idea but pawns strike me as stoic and simple. Feste is quite chaotic. Wondering around starting trouble and giggling the whole time.
Plus he looks nothing like Edmun which I assume is supposed to happen over time.

I just assumed Edmun went through something simular as the arisen. Dragon kicked his butt and took his heart, he went to the rift and summoned his main pawn, killed some stuff, wife gets abducted by dragon, he makes a deal all while main pawn in tow.

[Siloam]

I've heard that it might be Aldus or that skinny page since neither have much personality but are always by his side. Locked in a dungeon makes sense though--but then, if I were a practical and manipulative power-monger, I'd feel like a pawn is an awful thing to waste

[noir_7]

It seems the npcs in this game can spot a pawn a mile off. With the regular dignitaries from other countrys and local nobles flocking in and out of the castle, the duke's personal pawn would certainly be a subject of gossip.

And I fall back to the default, pawn and arisen start to look similar over time.

[Siloam]

That makes sense. But then, they didn't know that Selene was a pawn. And since they all know that the Duke was arisen, they probably wouldn't care if he broke the rules and kept his own pawn. I doubt a pawn really would be chatty either since all you'd have to do is say, "Don't talk about that" and he would have to obey. Plus, Aldous doesn't look that different from the Duke, really, and sometimes puts his hand up like a pawn.

I don't know anything about all this; I'm just offering suggestions.

I did read somewhere though that it's possible Lenore was both the Duke's beloved and his pawn. But again, no idea.

[noir_7]

I wasn't aware that any npcs besides Cassardis locals actually met Selene. When they came to the wood on their witch hunt they were probably looking for a old women just like Quina was. Met a golem butler instead.

A pawn romance would be much more agreeable to most the options the game gives us.

[Migromul]

But the Duke SACRIFICED his beloved? So Aelinore can't be the former, can she?. And: If a pawn is another gender, she/he wouldn't look like the arisen. (Although in Festes case this doesn't obviously matter. But where do you have this informations, anyway?)

Perhaps a pawn will get mad with the time, if an arisen survives via sacrificing his/her beloved? This would explain the character of Feste...

Aldous is another option (and the more sensible, imho.)

[noir_7]

Originally posted by westy.fan:

But the Duke SACRIFICED his beloved? So Aelinore can't be the former, can she?

Nobody said anything about Aelinore. Lenore, the name the duke was screeming while choking out Aelinore, was his former beloved that got fed to the dragon.

[Migromul]

Ok. I just thought "Lenore" was a shourtcut to "Ailinore"...

[tomsnc]

My understanding and the general one is that Lenore was his pawn whom he fell in love with and sacrificed her to Grigori instead of fighting him. Your pawn or rented pawns say theyve never heard of or seen Edmunds pawn (forgot the exact verbage) and possibly pawns are forbidden because it would trigger emotions or thoughts to the Dule of what he did OR theyd realize that hes still an Arisen which means he never killed Grigori. With all we know of being Arisen by the time youve beaten the game once or read the lore imo that makes the most sense, but I wish we got some more time with him. Primarily actually killing him instead of staring at him like a dope and running

[noir_7]

Originally posted by tomsnc:

killing him instead of staring at him like a dope and running

Yup.
My character has killed thousands of people, animals and monsters. Chopping an @sshole duke in half along with any guards that remained loyal after such a violent display would be a walk in the park.

Instead I run through the city like a idiot and fall in the worlds biggest hole.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Originally posted by westy.fan:

But the Duke SACRIFICED his beloved? So Aelinore can't be the former,

Grette Ashe and Olra show that pawns or even dragons aren't just robots by a long shot.

[Snowskeeper]

Our own pawn demonstrates that as well, in the 'true' ending.

[LegoNenen]

Originally posted by tomsnc:

My understanding and the general one is that Lenore was his pawn whom he fell in love with and sacrificed her to Grigori instead of fighting him. Your pawn or rented pawns say theyve never heard of or seen Edmunds pawn (forgot the exact verbage) and possibly pawns are forbidden because it would trigger emotions or thoughts to the Dule of what he did OR theyd realize that hes still an Arisen which means he never killed Grigori. With all we know of being Arisen by the time youve beaten the game once or read the lore imo that makes the most sense, but I wish we got some more time with him. Primarily actually killing him instead of staring at him like a dope and running

Seems like you've figured this out.

[Snowskeeper]

Three years old.

Three years old.