Is fournival innocent? Cant decide if hes guilty or not

[Toast]

Honestly idk if i should help him or not, wondering what happens to his daughter if hes gulity.

[JHarlequin]

Tough question. He did what they said, but is it actually wrong that he did it.

Since it is fantasy, and they don't really tell us anything, it is easy to look at it and say, they are just making a parody of what happens sometimes in Justice. Were they really doing wrong, or are they just on someone's bad side today.

As I said, he did what they said, but did he do it as badly as they said? Had he done it more than any of the other people at that level of standing? Is he forgiven because he has money? Is he guilty because the duke and the other high society members are wagging their fingers at him?

The first time you look at it, you kind of consider those issues. Then you learn you can find plenty of evidence and viewpoints from either side. So you can set the result. In effect it becomes not a matter of guilt or innocence but if you want the reward or access to other gear later on.

[Vic]

he pays me in periapts i pay him with innocence.

[AsianGirlLover]

You are what you eat, and he ate several innocent men. That makes him innocent in my books.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

He's guilty as hell, not really a question.

[Mobile Suit God Damn]

He's corrupt and a slimeball but he has also done some good things like selling weapons cheap to the army and funding the church. It's a really grey area, something you don't see often in games. I always save his ass just for the stuff he sells.

[Spoon]

Selling weapons for cheap to Salvation sympathizers and rebels you mean

[Action Man]

You could make a case either way, although I'd say the evidence strongly favors guilt.

[Mobile Suit God Damn]

Originally posted by Spoon:

Selling weapons for cheap to Salvation sympathizers and rebels you mean

Him selling armaments to both sides does not surprise me in the least.
Kinda sucks that the game forces you to kick out that family so you can get the quest to escort the little ♥♥♥♥ and get the golden idol.

[Greb]

He's only guilty of having a sexy bald head and manly, manly walrus moustache.

I can't really judge him considering my Arisen let Ailinore get choked to death by the Duke just so I could loot her bed for her silk lingerie.

He's probably in the morally grey area considering what's happening in the rest of the world, really.

[Leoscar]

It's just plain better to make sure he's innocent. He's a fantastic merchant.

[phadin]

Originally posted by Mobile Suit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by Spoon:

Selling weapons for cheap to Salvation sympathizers and rebels you mean :feste:

Him selling armaments to both sides does not surprise me in the least.
Kinda sucks that the game forces you to kick out that family so you can get the quest to escort the little ♥♥♥♥ and get the golden idol. :chuchelwhy:

You can get Simone's quest without kicking out Pip's family. It just costs you a big chunk of cash to pay off Fornival to complete the quest instead. The downside of doing this actually comes later. If you pay Fornival so the family stays in their home, it gets swallowed up by the Everfall when it opens in Gran Soren in the postgame. Pip is the only survivor from the family. He blames you for not saving his parents.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Originally posted by Leoscar:

It's just plain better to make sure he's innocent. He's a fantastic merchant.

Nah,

[AsianGirlLover]

Originally posted by phadin:

Originally posted by Mobile Suit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Him selling armaments to both sides does not surprise me in the least.
Kinda sucks that the game forces you to kick out that family so you can get the quest to escort the little ♥♥♥♥ and get the golden idol. :chuchelwhy:

You can get Simone's quest without kicking out Pip's family. It just costs you a big chunk of cash to pay off Fornival to complete the quest instead. The downside of doing this actually comes later. If you pay Fornival so the family stays in their home, it gets swallowed up by the Everfall when it opens in Gran Soren in the postgame. Pip is the only survivor from the family. He blames you for not saving his parents.

No good deed goes unpunished.

[Toast]

Originally posted by phadin:

Originally posted by Mobile Suit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Him selling armaments to both sides does not surprise me in the least.
Kinda sucks that the game forces you to kick out that family so you can get the quest to escort the little ♥♥♥♥ and get the golden idol. :chuchelwhy:

You can get Simone's quest without kicking out Pip's family. It just costs you a big chunk of cash to pay off Fornival to complete the quest instead. The downside of doing this actually comes later. If you pay Fornival so the family stays in their home, it gets swallowed up by the Everfall when it opens in Gran Soren in the postgame. Pip is the only survivor from the family. He blames you for not saving his parents.

wait whaattt. so i paid the place just for them to die?

[no1schmo]

Originally posted by Toast:

Originally posted by phadin:

You can get Simone's quest without kicking out Pip's family. It just costs you a big chunk of cash to pay off Fornival to complete the quest instead. The downside of doing this actually comes later. If you pay Fornival so the family stays in their home, it gets swallowed up by the Everfall when it opens in Gran Soren in the postgame. Pip is the only survivor from the family. He blames you for not saving his parents.

wait whaattt. so i paid the place just for them to die?

Yup. Game doesn't do a great job of making anything feel meaningful; it's mostly just a mindless action game despite their efforts.