How do you change vocation?

[PocketYoda]

I've been playing for days now and when i look to change vocations i cannot even get close to affording it..

Also is it even worth bothering changing classes?

I'm currently strider.

[Black Hammer]

It's only like a thousand discipline. By the time you hit level 10 you should have far more than that.

As far as fun goes, I like changing classes, although the only ones I use regularly are Assassin, Sorceror, and MK.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Black Hammer:

It's only like a thousand discipline. By the time you hit level 10 you should have far more than that.

As far as fun goes, I like changing classes, although the only ones I use regularly are Assassin, Sorceror, and MK.

I'm level 22 or something and have about 540? i've been completing quests and following the game etc? what am i missing or doing wrong?

How do you even earn discipline?

[Yograin]

Actually by lvl 10 you have some 1500-2500 discipline points if you didnt buy any abilities.

then you can go to BBI and ask Olra to change your vocation. (Go to the docks in Cassardis at night) Or you can do it in Gran Soren a bit later.

Discipline points is like experience, you get it from killing monsters. Smaller monsters have better XP/DP ratio I think.

[rjafarrow]

Have you been buying strider abilities?

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by rjafarrow:

Have you been buying strider abilities?

Yes lots, so i can survive better..

I see so they are connected?

[Smiling Spectre]

They are from the same pool. And changing vacation is somewhat low priced. Only do it _before_ buying skills. ;)

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Smiling Spectre:

They are from the same pool. And changing vacation is somewhat low priced. Only do it _before_ buying skills. ;)

Do you lose the skills if you change vocation? then switch back?

[Corrodias]

No. I think the intent of that comment was that you should save some DP to buy skills in the new vocation. Most of the skills in the other vocations cannot be used in the new one, though there are a few shared.

[Yorien]

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

I've been playing for days now and when i look to change vocations i cannot even get close to affording it..

Also is it even worth bothering changing classes?

I'm currently strider.

You can start changing vocations once you reach lv 10. To change vocations there are two options (later on, other characters will allow to change them). changing vocations cost a small amount of discipline points (1000 or 1500, depending if it's a Hybrid or an Advanced vocation), so early on you must save some discipline for them if you plan to switch as early as possible

1-. Innkeeper at Grand Soren. You must complete the main quest that sends you there, can't take the Quarry "longcut". Main issue here is that you usually will reach GS after lv10, unless you skip some quests and avoid as much combat as possible.

2-. Olra at BBI. Arguably the BEST choice if you want to switch right at lv10 since you can simply go to Cassardis docks at night, port to BBI, change vocation at Olra's, then ask her to send you back to Cassardis. This option comes with one issue... some of the advanced/hybrid vocations have initial weapons (Archistaves, Magic Bows...) that are sold from Caxton's in Grand Soren only, so you might have to stay weaponless for some levels until you unlock GS.

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About changing classes, every level you gain in a class will grant you different stat increases (some will grant you physical damage, other magical damage, others physical defense, others health and endurance...), so depending on what kind of Arisen you want to build, his/her strenghts and weaknessess (or lack of), you will want to level up in specific ways to build your character.

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

Originally posted by Smiling Spectre:

They are from the same pool. And changing vacation is somewhat low priced. Only do it _before_ buying skills. ;)

Do you lose the skills if you change vocation? then switch back?

No. Once you unlock a skill it stays unlocked forever, and sometimes you can actually use that skill (even if it's upgraded) when you switch to other class, as long as that class can equip the same skill.

[Black Hammer]

Both skills and vocations are unlocked using discipline.

Both are permanent once unlocked, and augments can be used regardless of vocation (though they might not be useful).

So switching from Strider to Warrior costs you 1000 the first time, to unlock Warrior, but afterwards you can switch between the two for free.

Also, any skills shared with vocation are unlocked there as well. For example, as a Strider, you have Scarlet Kisses. If you change to Assassin or Ranger, you will still have that skill unlocked there.

[PocketYoda]

I see thanks guys good info i guess the reason i could never change when i looked too is i'd used up all my discipline on skills.

As a strider i've found some really useless skills like splinter arrow etc, i might switch out.

[Black Hammer]

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

I see thanks guys good info i guess the reason i could never change when i looked too is i'd used up all my discipline on skills.

As a strider i've found some really useless skills like splinter arrow etc, i might switch out.

Best Strider skills for daggers are Scarlet Kisses and the stealing ones, best for bow are Threefold Arrow and Full Bend.

Might as well get out of Strider at level 10, though, the stat growth is unremarkable and aside from stealing, it doesn't really do anything Assassin or Ranger doesn't do better. Assassin is a boatload of fun and has lots of options, while Ranger is the king of ranged DPS.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Black Hammer:

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

I see thanks guys good info i guess the reason i could never change when i looked too is i'd used up all my discipline on skills.

As a strider i've found some really useless skills like splinter arrow etc, i might switch out.

Best Strider skills for daggers are Scarlet Kisses and the stealing ones, best for bow are Threefold Arrow and Full Bend.

Might as well get out of Strider at level 10, though, the stat growth is unremarkable and aside from stealing, it doesn't really do anything Assassin or Ranger doesn't do better. Assassin is a boatload of fun and has lots of options, while Ranger is the king of ranged DPS.

Ok thanks for the heads up was thinking assassin.

[Snowskeeper]

Originally posted by Black Hammer:

Originally posted by DanteYoda:

I see thanks guys good info i guess the reason i could never change when i looked too is i'd used up all my discipline on skills.

As a strider i've found some really useless skills like splinter arrow etc, i might switch out.

Best Strider skills for daggers are Scarlet Kisses and the stealing ones, best for bow are Threefold Arrow and Full Bend.

Might as well get out of Strider at level 10, though, the stat growth is unremarkable and aside from stealing, it doesn't really do anything Assassin or Ranger doesn't do better. Assassin is a boatload of fun and has lots of options, while Ranger is the king of ranged DPS.

Hundred Kisses and Skull Splitter*. Skull Splitter can two-hit-kill many late-game enemies if you use it correctly. The stealing skill, meanwhile, is useless for combat purposes and, in my experience, is less useful for mat gathering than straight-up farming is.

@Dante, keep in mind that none of the vocations are any better than the others. The term "basic vocations" is a huge misnomer; it implies that they're less useful or effective than the other classes, which is not the case.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Snowskeeper:

Originally posted by Black Hammer:

Best Strider skills for daggers are Scarlet Kisses and the stealing ones, best for bow are Threefold Arrow and Full Bend.

Might as well get out of Strider at level 10, though, the stat growth is unremarkable and aside from stealing, it doesn't really do anything Assassin or Ranger doesn't do better. Assassin is a boatload of fun and has lots of options, while Ranger is the king of ranged DPS.

Hundred Kisses and Skull Splitter*. Skull Splitter can two-hit-kill many late-game enemies if you use it correctly. The stealing skill, meanwhile, is useless for combat purposes and, in my experience, is less useful for mat gathering than straight-up farming is.

@Dante, keep in mind that none of the vocations are any better than the others. The term "basic vocations" is a huge misnomer; it implies that they're less useful or effective than the other classes, which is not the case.

I see yes thanks. I'm kinda using the super fast run skill attack a lot to get to the enemies fast. then using hundred kisses.