The Brine

[funkmonster7]

I really hope this gets taken out of DD2 when it comes out. I really hate it, it feels like a simple cop out from making basic swimming mechanics work. I mean, if the Brine only exists in the sea, I can understand that, but in this game the Brine exists in any "deep body of water", even if the water is a temporary body of water that can be drained out, like in the Watergod's Altar. The Brine is probably the most illogically stupid feature in this game.

[Epitome]

Originally posted by zadymek:

What if brine can only devour targets that are wet? Brine literally means salty water - if it cannot "stick" to you you're safe.

No, otherwise characters in "impervious" state could avoid brine.
Brine look like worms. Bloody puddle forms around characters. It's like piranhas. ForEx, they might not touch lizards because they have thick skin (but game has other enemies with much larger armor rating). And they have to attack lizards with their tails severed because predatory small creatures definitely have to attract smell of blood and in game that doesn't happen.

[~⁧⁧kapacb]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Originally posted by Epitome:

Btw, I see no reason why saurians should avoid brine. Another illogic.

What if brine can only devour targets that are wet? Brine literally means salty water - if it cannot "stick" to you you're safe.

those are just effects - why someone thinks those are worms is beyond me, at max those are tenticals of sorts
also blood puddle effect looks different, not to mention blood spreads away from charachter became bigger, while Brine effect shows particals that moves towards charachter and dont look like blood(can be observed on other npcs clearly), more than that its looks more like boiling effect in which charachter disappers
not to mention brine not really eat you, but rather drowns you

[~⁧⁧kapacb]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Originally posted by Epitome:

Btw, I see no reason why saurians should avoid brine. Another illogic.

What if brine can only devour targets that are wet? Brine literally means salty water - if it cannot "stick" to you you're safe.

there is no sense to imply any logic to a magic creature especially since its not really explained
explaining - work of devs, not players, they ve chosen not to explain it so much, so no point in such wild guesses, especially with such small foundation

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Epitome:

. ForEx, they might not touch lizards because they have thick skin (but game has other enemies with much larger armor rating).

Great, you have just explained brine :)

[Epitome]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Great, you have just explained brine :)

Brine does not eat lizards because they have thick skin.
Thick skin gives high armor rating.
Exist enemies with higher armor rating (forEx, hellhound).
Brine eats other enemies with higher armor ratings (with thicker skin).
Thick skin does not save from brine.
Found contradiction.
Hence, original assumption is incorrect.

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Epitome:

Originally posted by zadymek:

Great, you have just explained brine :)

Brine does not eat lizards because they have thick skin.

How about
Brine does not eat lizards cause they are aquatic creatures, just like fish. Also doesn't eat Arisen, including those turned into dragons.

Originally posted by Epitome:

Hence, original assumption is incorrect.

What can I say, it's your assumption...

[~⁧⁧kapacb]

Originally posted by Epitome:

Originally posted by zadymek:

Great, you have just explained brine :)

Found contradiction.

comes from a person who said neverwinter and fallout is a dragons dogma like games

[Epitome]

Originally posted by zadymek:

How about Brine does not eat lizards cause they are aquatic creatures, just like fish.

Aquatic creatures would have been eaten first, simply because they are closer than rest. I do not think that brine, teeming in sea, feeds only on land inhabitants. Then they would starve to death.

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Epitome:

Aquatic creatures would have been eaten first, simply because they are closer than rest.

Aquatic creatures wouldn't be eaten first if they have developed protective measures during the course of evolution. Y know, like certain famous fish living among anemones.

[Epitome]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Aquatic creatures wouldn't be eaten first if they have developed protective measures during the course of evolution. Y know, like certain famous fish living among anemones.

Yes, only brine shows itself as superaggressive predator that attacks as soon as creature enters its habitat. And attacks everyone in a row, even dead and skeletons. If he doesn't eat lizards (no one type) and fish (no one type), then what?

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Epitome:

Yes, only brine shows itself as superaggressive predator that attacks as soon as creature enters its habitat. And attacks everyone in a row, even dead and skeletons. If he doesn't eat lizards (no one type) and fish (no one type), then what?

Who says that is has to eat?

[Epitome]

Originally posted by zadymek:

Who says that is has to eat?

And what does it do, invites to tea party?

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Epitome:

And what does it do, invites to tea party?

It kills, that we can tell from the end result. Does it eat? Maybe.
Does it HAVE TO eat? Nope.
Maybe it's a photosynthetic life form? Or an omnivore. Hell, it may even feed on sea current! Puff, magick.

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

if the brine was eating all and every things that get into water.... what would be the point of Cassardis.... I mean... in the lore it's a fisherman village, most inhabitants are fisher and there's fishes hanging on the beach....
Also the game itself, I forgot in which dialog, descriebe the brine as a curse that affect land creatures that try to get into deep waters rather than a "lifeform".
Saurian are obviously amphibians, so partly land partly aquatic creatures, excluding them from the effect of the curse.

I dont think this require an argument, it's just another form of invisible wall to prevent players and NPCs from going out of the game world boundaries. period.

[funkmonster7]

I actually prefer the Brine being the sea monsters that pawns like to tell me about whenever we're at the beach. There really isn't much need for a functional swimming mechanic. It's just that when your MC comes from Cassardis, being able to swim is practically a given (since it is a fishing village).

I understand that due to budget reasons, the Brine had to exist in DD:DA. That is why I'm hoping it gets retconned in DD2, or at least made so that the Brine doesn't exist in lakes and whatnot that isn't to do with saltwater.