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How to turn your pawn Utilitarian?
As per title, wondering how I could turn my pawn utilitarian.

Can't say I'm happy with Scather or Acquisitor as secondary trait, so any suggestions welcome.
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Aria Jul 3, 2016 @ 10:31pm 
Spam the help command in battle or use utili elixer. Use knowledge chair often and get rid of inclinations that contradict utili like scather and pick up stuff like medicant. You should eventually get utili at some point.

Take note utili is the most helpful for support pawns like mages casting high anodyne or fighters grabbing mobs for you to whack
76561188078797539 Jul 3, 2016 @ 10:50pm 
Thanks. Guess I'll have to blow what RCs I have on the elixir then.

Seems people don't like support mages or something, have yet to get my pawn hired.

I run her with both curative spells (currently on High), High Grapnel, High Comestion, and just swapped High Ingle for High Spellscreen. Holy Affinity for weapons.

Works like a charm with a hired warrior for a tank, and a fire-based mage or sorceror to round up the group for early game content.

Comestion is fantastic. Just today she fried three lizards at once, and I ran into the ones in Vestad Hills at level 20. Any "boss" monster gets Grapnel'd so my character (striker) and the tank can climb and off them. I do have to stick with a fire-based hired pawn not to drop too much damage, though, but at least I know I have solid support always with me.

Judging by the damage done to the enemies, I'm messing around areas I'm probably supposed to be too low level to be in right now. So the only thing I'm keen on changing is removing Scather from her - figured will try Utilitarian and see how it works.
Paradox Jul 3, 2016 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by leseras:
Spam the help command in battle or use utili elixer. Use knowledge chair often and get rid of inclinations that contradict utili like scather and pick up stuff like medicant. You should eventually get utili at some point.

Take note utili is the most helpful for support pawns like mages casting high anodyne or fighters grabbing mobs for you to whack

Spamming the help button seems to increase Guardian instead of Utilitarian... at least if you're on a keyboard as it lacks the distinction available to the d-pad. And that's a bad, bad inclination to have.

In order to increase Utilitarian, if you're a Mage/Sorcerer/MK, try buffing your party often with Affinities/Trances. Exploiting enemy weaknesses such as cutting off a Saurian's tail, using fire or ice against goblins, etc also fosters the inclination as will grappling a downed foe.

Originally posted by Sheepify:
Judging by the damage done to the enemies, I'm messing around areas I'm probably supposed to be too low level to be in right now. So the only thing I'm keen on changing is removing Scather from her - figured will try Utilitarian and see how it works.

That is probably why you've seen few rents. Mages do tend to be popular at the lower levels, but having a Scather/Acquisitor mage can be detrimental to the party as the former will cause the pawn to frequently interrupt its spellcasting in order to climb large foes or charge head on into combat. The latter is equally undesirable as it causes pawns to loot stuff mid battle, often ignoring foes outright in order to pick up the goodies.

A Util mage on the other hand should work quite well and will prioritize buffing and supporting your party as any good mage should. For the secondary inclination, might I suggest Mitigator or Challenger in order to increase its DPS output and thus usefulness to the party. Medicant might sound useful to promote heals, but based on my experience, said heals usually come regardless of inclination.
Aria Jul 3, 2016 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by Paradox:
Originally posted by leseras:
Spam the help command in battle or use utili elixer. Use knowledge chair often and get rid of inclinations that contradict utili like scather and pick up stuff like medicant. You should eventually get utili at some point.

Take note utili is the most helpful for support pawns like mages casting high anodyne or fighters grabbing mobs for you to whack

Spamming the help button seems to increase Guardian instead of Utilitarian... at least if you're on a keyboard as it lacks the distinction available to the d-pad. And that's a bad, bad inclination to have.

In order to increase Utilitarian, if you're a Mage/Sorcerer/MK, try buffing your party often with Affinities/Trances. Exploiting enemy weaknesses such as cutting off a Saurian's tail, using fire or ice against goblins, etc also fosters the inclination as will grappling a downed foe.

Originally posted by Sheepify:
Judging by the damage done to the enemies, I'm messing around areas I'm probably supposed to be too low level to be in right now. So the only thing I'm keen on changing is removing Scather from her - figured will try Utilitarian and see how it works.

That is probably why you've seen few rents. Mages do tend to be popular at the lower levels, but having a Scather/Acquisitor mage can be detrimental to the party as the former will cause the pawn to frequently interrupt its spellcasting in order to climb large foes or charge head on into combat. The latter is equally undesirable as it causes pawns to loot stuff mid battle, often ignoring foes outright in order to pick up the goodies.

A Util mage on the other hand should work quite well and will prioritize buffing and supporting your party as any good mage should. For the secondary inclination, might I suggest Mitigator or Challenger in order to increase its DPS output and thus usefulness to the party. Medicant might sound useful to promote heals, but based on my experience, said heals usually come regardless of inclination.

Yeah I agree that the help button can be a bit sketchy in the inclinations that it promotes. It's very hit and miss for me. It's probably best to just make a slut pawn and use the RCs to buy elixers
Huggles the Cat Jul 4, 2016 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by leseras:
Spam the help command in battle or use utili elixer. Use knowledge chair often and get rid of inclinations that contradict utili like scather and pick up stuff like medicant. You should eventually get utili at some point.

Take note utili is the most helpful for support pawns like mages casting high anodyne or fighters grabbing mobs for you to whack
To be specific, you need to use the Left D-pad Help command while in battle to train utilitarian (according to the wiki). I forget what the right d-pad trains (probably guardian). I think d-pad commands only increase the inclination by a small amount (like 10 with each press). Using elixors is really the only good way to train most of the time.
Originally posted by Mr.Huggles:
Using elixors is really the only good way to train most of the time.
Not sure if the price of elixirs is pawn-level-based, but I can't swing 255 RC to make her a better recruitment option right now.

I sure hope end-game gives substantial number of RCs.
Auto Bio Reactor Jul 4, 2016 @ 7:49am 
Buy one of each elixir you want, then go to the Black Cat in Gran Soren and let Mountebank make a forgery if you need more, costs about 3500 gold or so.
Originally posted by antigravitycat:
Buy one of each elixir you want, then go to the Black Cat in Gran Soren and let Mountebank make a forgery if you need more, costs about 3500 gold or so.
Can't afford any right now.

Also, I thought the forgeries had no active effects? Is that bugged for the elixirs or something?
Paradox Jul 4, 2016 @ 8:13am 
Elixirs count as normal consumables when it comes to forging, so they work just fine. And the cost for forge one is a mere 375 Gold IIRC.

Things that cannot be forged effectively include Portcrystals, Ferrystones, Wakestones, Wakestone Shards and the Wyrmking's Ring. There may be others I'm missing but those are the notable few.
Thanks, good to know. Here's hoping the RNGesus blesses me with some RC drops soon :)
Aria Jul 6, 2016 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by Sheepify:
Thanks, good to know. Here's hoping the RNGesus blesses me with some RC drops soon :)

RNGesus is fickle. The lord giveth and the lord taketh. In all seriousness just kill enough mobs and they should drop rift fragments like candy
myarmor Jul 6, 2016 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by Paradox:
Elixirs count as normal consumables when it comes to forging, so they work just fine. And the cost for forge one is a mere 375 Gold IIRC.

Things that cannot be forged effectively include Portcrystals, Ferrystones, Wakestones, Wakestone Shards and the Wyrmking's Ring. There may be others I'm missing but those are the notable few.
Don't forget bronze/silver/gold idols (only works as a discount, no expansion of store), ring
of thrift, BBI cursed items, and so on.
Last edited by myarmor; Jul 6, 2016 @ 5:37am
Fuji Jul 6, 2016 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by Sheepify:
Thanks. Guess I'll have to blow what RCs I have on the elixir then.

Seems people don't like support mages or something, have yet to get my pawn hired.

I run her with both curative spells (currently on High), High Grapnel, High Comestion, and just swapped High Ingle for High Spellscreen. Holy Affinity for weapons.

Works like a charm with a hired warrior for a tank, and a fire-based mage or sorceror to round up the group for early game content.

Comestion is fantastic. Just today she fried three lizards at once, and I ran into the ones in Vestad Hills at level 20. Any "boss" monster gets Grapnel'd so my character (striker) and the tank can climb and off them. I do have to stick with a fire-based hired pawn not to drop too much damage, though, but at least I know I have solid support always with me.

Judging by the damage done to the enemies, I'm messing around areas I'm probably supposed to be too low level to be in right now. So the only thing I'm keen on changing is removing Scather from her - figured will try Utilitarian and see how it works.

Nobody who knows what they're doing wants a support mage that has a Scather inclination.
myarmor Jul 6, 2016 @ 7:55am 
^Probably true enough :) However, I've seen a util/mitigator mage/sorcerer be everywhere
he shouldn't be. Such as climbing on a gorechimera and using light attack..instead of
using focused bolt or any of his spells.
I don't have a clue why he would do that, but..
Originally posted by Fuji:
Nobody who knows what they're doing wants a support mage that has a Scather inclination.
Yeah... for the record, that's secondary (or tertiary) trait. Main is Mitigator.

I accidentally double-clicked while considering the last "inclination" choices during pawn creation, so stuck with either Scather or Acquisitor till I can afford the elixirs.

Not entirely keen on remaking, seeing how I put some hours into the game already (er... a lot of it was, admittedly, making sure my characters look the right way).

Seriously, having no "go back" option in the multiple-answer part of pawn creation is such a huge SNAFU.

Also, not being able to look up the customization code (or even share it) for your characters makes me disinclined to remake. I like the way they look, and not sure would manage to easily figure out what exactly I did (lots of multiple optional tweaks to a lot of elements).

Ah, well.
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