Never completed Reaper's Scorn...

[hellbiter88]

Can someone confirm that this causes any wakestone I acquire to NOT work? I forgot to complete this quest and then it became unavailable. I acquired a wakestone only to find that it doesn't work.

Acquired another and that one doesn't work either. Do I have to replay the game and finish that quest in order to get wakestones to work? >.<

[Paradox]

I think you're confusing Wakestone Shards with Wakestones. You need 3 Shards to make a single fully functional Wakestone. Additionally, completing the quest isn't a requisite for them to work either.

Another possible explanation is the Wakestone you acquired is a useless forgery

[hellbiter88]

Originally posted by Paradox:

I think you're confusing Wakestone Shards with Wakestones. You need 3 Shards to make a single fully functional Wakestone. Additionally, completing the quest isn't a requisite for them to work either.

Another possible explanation is the Wakestone you acquired is a useless forgery

No, I'm saying a completed (authentic) wakestone is not functioning. No shards and no forgeries.

The wiki says "This quest must be completed before advancing too much into the main storyline, or it will be too late to revive poor Wilhem : the Wakestone will have no effect."

I'm wondering if this has ever happened to anyone else or if I just have a random bug--I've never had this on a playthrough before. Everytime I die it takes me straight to the "retry" screen, whether the wakestone is in my inventory or my pawns.

[Corlain]

That quote just means you can't revive William later on, it has nothing to do with wakestones working on you. I don't know what that bug is, but it's not connected to the quest.

[(deleted)]

Wakestone will work regardless of whether you did that quest or not. You need the shard to be all on the same person for the game to identify and auto merge for you.
Confirm that the item is wakestone, not wakestone shard. Then jump off a cliff, does the game prompt you for revival?
If not, deposit all the shards/ wakestone, save, quit. Load game, withdraw and try above process again.
If the bug still remains, discard and I will send you a new one.

[hellbiter88]

Originally posted by l_hamalainen:

That quote just means you can't revive William later on, it has nothing to do with wakestones working on you. I don't know what that bug is, but it's not connected to the quest.

That's what I thought, as well. But now I'm not sure, because this is the first time I've ever NOT completed the quest, and the first time I've found these to be non-functional.

Originally posted by 鬼神刀手:

Wakestone will work regardless of whether you did that quest or not. You need the shard to be all on the same person for the game to identify and auto merge for you.
Confirm that the item is wakestone, not wakestone shard. Then jump off a cliff, does the game prompt you for revival?
If not, deposit all the shards/ wakestone, save, quit. Load game, withdraw and try above process again.
If the bug still remains, discard and I will send you a new one.

Thanks, but I tried all of the above. They simply don't work. No they're not shards. They're complete wakestones (this is like my 5th playthrough, so I'm not brand new to these). I've tested two different ones now, trying all kinds of reloads, changing of inventories, etc. I jump off a cliff or deliberately get killed by bandits and the message to revive simply never shows up. I'm very curious to see if this is a bug or if it actually IS tied to the Reaper's Scorn quest.

I appreciate the offer but I've already started a new save. I'm going to see if first I can get the stones to work again, and then I'm gonna revert my save and deliberately ignore the quest to see if I can replicate the effect.

[Karathrax]

I recommend that you check the integrity of your game's files-- sounds like a bug. I've had at least one new game where I've missed completing Reaper's Scorn that did not have this issue, so I'm not convinced that's what it is.

From the pinned post at the top of this forum:

1) From your Steam Library list, right-click on Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen and select Properties.
2) Click the LOCAL FILES tab.
3) Click "Verify Integrity of Game Cache..." and allow the validation process to run its course. Please disable or shutdown your anti-virus while this process runs.

This process allows the Steam client to scan every single file you downloaded for this game, verify checksum of each, and compare that against the file manifest data on Steam's content server. If the file is missing or has a different checksum value, you will receive a message stating "X files failed to validate and will be reacquired." What this means is that some files have either been deleted, or may have been corrupted. Click “Close,” and Steam will automatically download and / or replace the problem files.

Karathrax again: I don't know if that affects installed mods; I suspect it would erase them. The only mod I run is one of the ENB variants, so no clue.

[hellbiter88]

Originally posted by Karathrax:

I recommend that you check the integrity of your game's files-- sounds like a bug. I've had at least one new game where I've missed completing Reaper's Scorn that did not have this issue, so I'm not convinced that's what it is.

From the pinned post at the top of this forum:

1) From your Steam Library list, right-click on Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen and select Properties.
2) Click the LOCAL FILES tab.
3) Click "Verify Integrity of Game Cache..." and allow the validation process to run its course. Please disable or shutdown your anti-virus while this process runs.

This process allows the Steam client to scan every single file you downloaded for this game, verify checksum of each, and compare that against the file manifest data on Steam's content server. If the file is missing or has a different checksum value, you will receive a message stating "X files failed to validate and will be reacquired." What this means is that some files have either been deleted, or may have been corrupted. Click “Close,” and Steam will automatically download and / or replace the problem files.

Karathrax again: I don't know if that affects installed mods; I suspect it would erase them. The only mod I run is one of the ENB variants, so no clue.

Thanks but that's something I already tried in my previous (broken) save. Interestingly, I've found that not completing the Reaper's Scorn quest does indeed render my wakestones ineffective. The "bug" disappeared immediately as soon as I completed the quest. Not sure what happened, but for me, at least, it seems to be tied to this quest.

[Draescan]

Umm, actually it sounds like you're using wakestone forgeries....They don't work

[hellbiter88]

Originally posted by PsychoMantis:

Umm, actually it sounds like you're using wakestone forgeries....They don't work

no they were not forgeries.

Was tied to the quest. at least for me.

[Corlain]

I've beaten the game at least 20 times and done that quest maybe twice, and wakestones have worked every time. So yes it's maybe a glitch of some kind, but that quest is not meant to have anything to do with the wakestones working on you.

[hellbiter88]

Originally posted by l_hamalainen:

I've beaten the game at least 20 times and done that quest maybe twice, and wakestones have worked every time. So yes it's maybe a glitch of some kind, but that quest is not meant to have anything to do with the wakestones working on you.

Yeah don't know what to tell you, but that quest was most definitely the reason for the wakestones not working. Bug appeared prior to quest completion and when I completed the quest they worked again.

Reverted save to test twice. Same results.

[Meier]

Old topic but i might have just run into this exact same bug, or something similar. I'm at that quest now and i have no way of reviving the smithys son. He keeps saying i have the stones, and i do they where in my inventory but combined automatically.

But the prompt to revive his son does not show up no matter where i stand in that room. Its like the game just doesnt see that i do have the right item despite the quest giver acknowledges i have it and that it is firmly placed in my inventory.

[zadymek]

Originally posted by Meier:

But the prompt to revive his son does not show up no matter where i stand in that room. Its like the game just doesnt see that i do have the right item despite the quest giver acknowledges i have it and that it is firmly placed in my inventory.

If you have the Wakestone, an actual one not the forgery, the prompt should pop up when standing by the dead body of any NPC.

[Maestro Virgoreo]

Weeeeird. I know this is an old thread given the last post by the author, but yeah, that's trippy. I believe you. The game can be glitchy even in vanilla. I remember when I was playing on my XB1 console, I just randomly fell through the floor and kept falling for a solid minute before respawning to the surface lol. It appears your Arisen was chosen to ne'er revive before reviving another.

The only other thing I'd try (since it sounds like something a mod would interfere with, even though I read that you tried mod analyses), is to use an item-editor and change some random item to a proper Wakestone, and see if it indeed is just the item-ID that's the issue (I'd change it while it's still in my personal inventory, then once converted, deposit it into my storage inventory and withdraw it once more to then use).

If that still didn't work, and I just really loved my Wakestones (I seldom use them, I like to let myself die for being careless in battle), then I'd do a complete uninstall and reinstall and hope that the files download correctly this time, because that quest should not interfere with Wakestone versatility. The game must've had a rare corruption where it linked the utility of the Wakestone's revival protocol on William to your Arisen.