What are the downside to levelling fast?

[Cemetery Man]

I did a playthrough years ago and want to get back in with a new character. Since there is like a hundred guide about levelling quickly, I was considering following one since I level my first character the old fashion way.

Are there any downside to levelling too quickly? I'm mostly worried about the fact that the enemies doesn't scale (according to the info I have found).

[zadymek]

Why yes, you will become stronger and the content will be less challenging.
That been said, if you haven't been playing for some time I don't think few levels will make a difference as knowledge is your true power ;)

tl;dr Unless you go straight to level 100 or something you should be fine.

[Pendergast891]

unless you're worried about min-maxing, leveling up fast won't really effect your game other than making it much easier than normal progression would entail.

[Cemetery Man]

Originally posted by Pendergast891:

unless you're worried about min-maxing, leveling up fast won't really effect your game other than making it much easier than normal progression would entail.

I'm a bit worried about min-maxing. I really love using my fists when I play a RPG and got really excited when I realise it was an option in this game.

To make it work I need to get as much strength as possible (so I need to have enough point to become an assassin at level 11) and get the two Bloody Knuckle as soon as I can. But I don't remember much from my first playthrough and I'm not sure if it's possible to get at least one ring early without levelling fast.

[Striker]

One downside to leveling up fast is a decrease in rentals your pawn gets from other players and once you get to level 100 the number of rentals seems to fall off quite a bit. This might leave you a bit short of RCs forcing you to do a lot of grinding to purify and upgrade BBI equipment and weapons down the road.

[Pendergast891]

Originally posted by Cemetery Man:

Originally posted by Pendergast891:

unless you're worried about min-maxing, leveling up fast won't really effect your game other than making it much easier than normal progression would entail.

I'm a bit worried about min-maxing. I really love using my fists when I play a RPG and got really excited when I realise it was an option in this game.

To make it work I need to get as much strength as possible (so I need to have enough point to become an assassin at level 11) and get the two Bloody Knuckle as soon as I can. But I don't remember much from my first playthrough and I'm not sure if it's possible to get at least one ring early without levelling fast.

if you're looking to do that, you'll want to be fighter or strider for more str or stamina, then at lvl 10 you can go do BBI and change to assassin, once you're an assassin you can level up as quick or slow as you want and you'll get max strength.

In order to get the rings you'll need to farm and purify BBI gear lvl 3, or more realistically you'll find and complete the bbi quest 'slumbering promises' which requires you to rarify an item you have, which means having an item dragonforged already.

[Cemetery Man]

Originally posted by Pendergast891:

Originally posted by Cemetery Man:

I'm a bit worried about min-maxing. I really love using my fists when I play a RPG and got really excited when I realise it was an option in this game.

To make it work I need to get as much strength as possible (so I need to have enough point to become an assassin at level 11) and get the two Bloody Knuckle as soon as I can. But I don't remember much from my first playthrough and I'm not sure if it's possible to get at least one ring early without levelling fast.

if you're looking to do that, you'll want to be fighter or strider for more str or stamina, then at lvl 10 you can go do BBI and change to assassin, once you're an assassin you can level up as quick or slow as you want and you'll get max strength.

In order to get the rings you'll need to farm and purify BBI gear lvl 3, or more realistically you'll find and complete the bbi quest 'slumbering promises' which requires you to rarify an item you have, which means having an item dragonforged already.

Will levelling to 10, becoming an assassin and then restart in Hard Mode be a good idea? From there I could do some quick levelling until I am able to do get a dragonforge item and do Slumbering Promises.

[Pendergast891]

Originally posted by Cemetery Man:

Originally posted by Pendergast891:

if you're looking to do that, you'll want to be fighter or strider for more str or stamina, then at lvl 10 you can go do BBI and change to assassin, once you're an assassin you can level up as quick or slow as you want and you'll get max strength.

In order to get the rings you'll need to farm and purify BBI gear lvl 3, or more realistically you'll find and complete the bbi quest 'slumbering promises' which requires you to rarify an item you have, which means having an item dragonforged already.

Will levelling to 10, becoming an assassin and then restart in Hard Mode be a good idea? From there I could do some quick levelling until I am able to do get a dragonforge item and do Slumbering Promises.

when you restart in hard mode you'll be forced to become one of the starting vocations again, meaning you'd need to complete enough prologue stuff until you can go back to bbi, but at a low level you'll most likely level up in the meanwhile, getting to level 20+ first, then waiting to restart in hard mode right after a level up should give you more than enough leeway to quickly progress through the story until you could become an assassin again.

[Cemetery Man]

Originally posted by Pendergast891:

Originally posted by Cemetery Man:

Will levelling to 10, becoming an assassin and then restart in Hard Mode be a good idea? From there I could do some quick levelling until I am able to do get a dragonforge item and do Slumbering Promises.

when you restart in hard mode you'll be forced to become one of the starting vocations again, meaning you'd need to complete enough prologue stuff until you can go back to bbi, but at a low level you'll most likely level up in the meanwhile, getting to level 20+ first, then waiting to restart in hard mode right after a level up should give you more than enough leeway to quickly progress through the story until you could become an assassin again.

Ok, I'm gonna try this. Thank you for all you answers.

[Migromul]

I wouldn't recommend to a "fist"-build. I think you give up a lot of fun, doing that...

[Cemetery Man]

Originally posted by Migromul:

I wouldn't recommend to a "fist"-build. I think you give up a lot of fun, doing that...

Why? Not enough moveset? Too hard?

[Migromul]

Originally posted by Cemetery Man:

Originally posted by Migromul:

I wouldn't recommend to a "fist"-build. I think you give up a lot of fun, doing that...

Why? Not enough moveset? Too hard?

because it's boring imho. The melee combat is realy cool presented. But only if you use your weapons. Fist combat is just boring.

[Cemetery Man]

Originally posted by Migromul:

Originally posted by Cemetery Man:

Why? Not enough moveset? Too hard?

because it's boring imho. The melee combat is realy cool presented. But only if you use your weapons. Fist combat is just boring.

Even if I use a shield and carry a bow as secondary weapon?

[Pendergast891]

Originally posted by Cemetery Man:

Originally posted by Migromul:

because it's boring imho. The melee combat is realy cool presented. But only if you use your weapons. Fist combat is just boring.

Even if I use a shield and carry a bow as secondary weapon?

You will lose out on 50% available skills you can use, and many of the movement improvements that you can unlock for each type of main hand weapon, including reducing fall damage, won't be available.

i believe there is some cheese with mystic knight riposte skills getting the bloody knuckle boost.

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

There are 2 must have skills in the game: instant reset and full moonslash. If you carry daggers and dont use instant reset, or a sword and dont use fullmoonslash, you should reconsider the vocation you picked.

Reasons why those 2 skills are so important is because they allow you to cancel stagger and knock back stat, instant reset can also cancel knocked down stat, if you use it early enough, and the recovery animation after using skills.

Invaluable in areas where ennemies can grab you once you get knocked down or against ennemies that can stunlock/combo you (skeletons, living armors, bandits or corrupted pawns fighter for example). And for instant reset very important if you climb ennemies, to let go of a grab instantly while you are using scarlet/hundred/thousand kisses (that's why IMO dire gouge sucks, you cant instant reset with a sword).

Though switching ponctually to bare handed combat can have some advantages, but only in very particular situations and with very specific set-up.

[Cemetery Man]

I'm gonna find another build then. I was so excited by the idea of killing dragons with my bare hands...