Questions on Post-Dragon, Great Hereafter and NG+

[McRomR]

I kinda know the difference and game play-through of these 3 stages, but would there be any modes or stages where you keep all items and skills you have (same as your main pawn) but you can play a fresh new world and starting at Level 1 ??? Is this even possible without starting a fresh new game?

[SlantedRhetoric]

Not that I'm aware of, the closest you can get to that is starting a hard mode playthrough with a completed save.

[McRomR]

Originally posted by SlantedRhetoric:

Not that I'm aware of, the closest you can get to that is starting a hard mode playthrough with a completed save.

Ok, thanks!

So I'm at level 70 ish and haven't touched Daimon yet.

Do you suggest go for Daimon, or NG+? Is it better to get Daimon now and lvl BBI stuff before my level is much higher like over 100?

I got bunch of undone missions when I was doing pre-grigori, so can't definately get back to those until NG+.

[McRomR]

Originally posted by Berserker:

Originally posted by McRomR:

Ok, thanks!

So I'm at level 70 ish and haven't touched Daimon yet.

Do you suggest go for Daimon, or NG+? Is it better to get Daimon now and lvl BBI stuff before my level is much higher like over 100?

I got bunch of undone missions when I was doing pre-grigori, so can't definately get back to those until NG+.

Maybe go through post game everfall once and see if you can level up more. You can fight Arch Hydra, Ur-Dragon etc. to gain a few levels.

But honestly at level 70 you should be fine for the first run through Bitterblack island. The main bosses you fight like Gazer, Dark Bishop etc. are not that hard and the general enemies are also easy to handle. But some of the other bosses like the huge chained Cyclops, cursed dragon, elder orge , Death etc. that spawn can be quite difficult because they have huge amount of health and defense. So you might want to grab a fair amount of conqueror's periapt ( or any other damage boosting items) with you. Once you use/stack 4 of those, you deal significant amount of damage to them. If you are a ranged class using a bow, you might also want to grab a few blast arrows.

Also one of the merchants you meet in the Bitterblack islands sells you Martyrs Talisman using which gives you 2 times the exp you get from defeating enemies, so you might want to buy that. Every time you beat a boss and it's about to die, just pop that item you will get lots of xp. But you can only buy it one at a time and for him to sell that item again , you have to go back to Gransys , rest for a few days and come back to BitterBlack. Daimon can also be a pain in the ass, but by using above methods you should be leveled up fairly well by the time you reach him. Also once you defeat Daimon , BitterBlack isle will be reset , and will be filled with some newer and harder enemies , so you have to make your way to bitterblack again , unlock shortcuts again and make your way to Daimon who will now have a 2nd Phase.

Thanks ! That's a very through tips.

I just did Daimon 1st time, and no sweat at all ~ So now, do you suggest go for him 2nd time, or just do NG+ ? What would be different and why?

I'm heading to lvl 90, assasin w/ my soc pawn.

Is Daimon 2nd phase all for bbi lvl 3 gears?

[McRomR]

Originally posted by Berserker:

Originally posted by McRomR:

Thanks ! That's a very through tips.

I just did Daimon 1st time, and no sweat at all ~ So now, do you suggest go for him 2nd time, or just do NG+ ? What would be different and why?

I'm heading to lvl 90, assasin w/ my soc pawn.

Is Daimon 2nd phase all for bbi lvl 3 gears?

NG+ by itself doesn't have anything new , you will fight the same enemies , do the same quests and get the same xp and stuff , but you keep your levels , vocation ranks , items , gold , etc. It's just a power trip honestly where you blast your way through everything. But you can complete any side quests you missed out on your previous playthrough.

In case you are playing on Normal mode right now , if you want the most XP and gold , I suggest finishing the game first by completing the everfall quest by submitting those 20 wakestones. After that from the menu select the "Hard Mode" , which will automatically put you in NG+ with Hard Mode. Hard Mode gives you more XP and more gold from enemies ( enemies have higher chances of dropping Giant Gold Bags with 10,000 gold ).

Then just complete the first encampment quest where you fight the Cyclops for the first time , then go back to Cassardis and head to BitterBlack Island. Now BitterBlack will be reset ofcourse , but this time you are gonna get much more xp and gold when you go through it, and combine that with Martyrs Talisman , you will get even more. At level 90+ enemies should be easy enough to handle there even on Hard Mode as long as you have decent gear. Then you can just fight Daimon , or farm him for XP and BitterBlack level 3 gear. Phase 2 of Daimon honestly feels much easier than his phase 1 where he is much faster. 4 x Conqueror's periapts + Blast arrows , just obliterates him. Plus he gives you XP two times , one for his phase 1 fight and another set of XP for his phase 2 fight ( so 4x XP when you use Martyrs Talisman ). Don't worry too much about the BitterBlack level 3 gear. If you want to farm it , feel free to , but otherwise from my personal experience , the weapon I got ( "Dragon's Ire " ) from those doors which unlock via Moonbeam gems , was more than sufficient for going through BitterBlack isle on Hard Mode.

Great, thanks!

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

No. Just finish your first playtrough normally beating savan etc.... then go in NG+ and select hardmode.
If you reset the game by switching to hard mode before completing it, first you wont get the reward for completeing it (I think there's a reward for beating the normal mode too ? for got which it was...), and second you wont get the teleportation stone for chamber of lament on cassardis beach....

[McRomR]

Originally posted by せがた三四郎:

No. Just finish your first playtrough normally beating savan etc.... then go in NG+ and select hardmode.
If you reset the game by switching to hard mode before completing it, first you wont get the reward for completeing it (I think there's a reward for beating the normal mode too ? for got which it was...), and second you wont get the teleportation stone for chamber of lament on cassardis beach....

Ok, does completing normal game and going into NG+ affect anything on my current bbi progress, or it desn't matter?

[McRomR]

Originally posted by Berserker:

Originally posted by McRomR:

Ok, does completing normal game and going into NG+ affect anything on my current bbi progress, or it desn't matter?

Yes completing the game and going to NG+ will immediately reset the entire game including Bitterblack isle. You have to do the same quests again to advance in the game.

But you keep your level, vocation rank and abilities, all gear and items you found, NPC affinity , Money, Rift crystals etc. in NG+. All the items will be in your storage inventory that you can access at an inn. Also a new rift stone will be added at the end of Cassardis beach in NG+ , which will directly take you to the chambers with the Ur-Dragon boss ( which was available in post game everfall, but you had to fall through the everfall and land on the correct platform to reach him in the previous mode ).

So besides doing all the bbi things, getting stronger, tougher, richer, and maybe sexxier looking, what else you can do in NG+?

I know one that you can restart and do all the quests that you might have missed during your normal run.

What else you can achieve?

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Keep the cycle running. If you dont know what it's about, search in Gran Soren a NPC named Baudric and talk to him....

[McRomR]

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