So did they put zero thoughts on the quest progression?

[Jester]

Got into a well and got rocked by lizards apparently shouldn't be tackling at the start of the game. Then got into another quest apparently I shouldn't be going into until post end game. The hell is this game. Am I suppose to google whether a quest is fine for my level or not every time? Does this get any better?

[Pendergast891]

ice damage to the tails of saurians makes fights against them hilariously easy.

Also, outside of bounty board quests which you can pick up when ever and doesn't limit you in any way if you pick it up, what quest are you talking about that's only beatable post endgame? the bitterblack isle area that directly warns you that it's difficult?

[76561198050929976]

All about strategizing and knowing weak points.
As the kids say, GIT GUD.

[zadymek]

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. The hell is this game. Am I suppose to google whether a quest is fine for my level or not every time? Does this get any better?

No, It's just ...the difficulty is subjective. You can have a hard time as one vocation, or even build, and burst through as other.

There's by far only one quest that casts you to "high level" area, called Lost and Found. And there's a tight window of opportunity for clearing it so it down right sucks. Still, you can always run away from tough foes or wait with the nomen omen quest for the night where "everything changes" ;)

BTW If you have problems with difficulty there's always Easy Mode. Just sayin' .

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3) Generally, do the rule 101 of open world games: open up a stage quest (i.e. complete Lure of Abyss or open up Visit the Duke but not finish it) then ignore the main quest line until you've done everything else.

Or simply ignore the chores untill you are in need of XP or coint (that's what board jobs are for) and focus on actual quests that you won't find on the boards. That's how normal ppl play games. Only idiot completionists would want to "catch'em all".

[zadymek]

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You could read what I wrote, which is exactly the same as your post, just with more useful information. i.e. some affinity escort quests give nice items faaaar before you would otherwise get comparable items. e.g.

https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Ser_Berne

Instead of attempting to snipe, and failing so hard, hush.

There's a subtle difference between graphomaniac rant concluded with "just use wiki".
And advising to simply ignore the chores. untill you need them.

The main quest line gives you enough XP, coin and gear (shop updates) so you could continue. Those chores are simply for ppl who can't handle the content without additional help.
Besides, you already mentioned chests loot so why contradict yourself?

[zadymek]

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Ser Berne's loot is not obtainable outside of a late endgame chest with a 1% drop rate. Your advice to ignore the affinity quests is in this case... terrible and flawed advice. Wrong. Incorrect. Flat out not useful.

Oh, so because ONE quest gives you ONE item, that you not necessarily need cause what shops offer is enough, this makes general advice regarding chore quests wrong now? OK.
Man, me clearing the game without Gryphic Victory must have been a fluke! Glad you enlightened me on the importance of chores.
...wait, what did you say about the game difficulty?

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My man, the game is a console port from 2016/2012. It's not exactly huge: I had explored the majority of the world / dungeons before I'd completed the Lure of the Abyss quest.

Alright, I'm confused now.

[zadymek]

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You attempted to label me as Schizo-affected, and I caught you immediately doing it. I'd stop now, you're waaaay out of your league.

Neverming interpersonal conflicts, seriously: when you are seeing things man, you should see the specialist instead.
Schizo-affected, persecution complex whatever you call it, now you only make a laughing stock out of yourself, but you never know what comes next. You should not ignore the first symptoms!

[Migromul]

The beginning in this game is the moste difficult part imho. Especially if you never played the game and get to certain enemies the first time. You easily can underestimate them. Beware the bandits!

ALWAYS have at least a fighter with you, if you don't play one yourself. (not confusing with the two-handed-weapon-wielder: the warrior.) Although some say, they're useless, I also never go without a mage... (not the sorcerer.) Most of the time, I set my own pawn to mage or fighter-vocation.

To the affinity: it doesn't realy matter. The quests to get affintiy for a certain character is ALWAYS an escorting-quest. And the rewards are often not worth it. There are some special ones, however. And they're also hard to miss imho. (for the princess, selene, and some other important characters.)

There are two escential side-quests in the game: first BEFORE you make the quest of the hydra-head, FIND QUINA!. If you don't, certain following quests and areas will be locked for the rest of the current play-through.
Next important side-quest is in gran-soren: Take Mason serious and follow the NPC, which comes out of the castle at night. This will open madeleines shop. She has some realy nice items, especially for female characters.

Another spoiler regarding your love:

To get the love of your joice, give him/her the arisans bond JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO THE DRAGON!. TALK WITH NO ONE AFTERWARDS, NOT EVEN SHOP-KEEPERS!. And this will be your chosen one. The arisens bond will get the affinity of the chracter, you give it to, to max-level. However: The love will be the character with max affinity you last talked to... And the figurine, you give to the shopkeepers, especially the golden one, will get the affinity also nearly to max level. But it also always rises, if you buy or sell items at the shop... So if you gave the arisens bond to your want-to-be-love and gave the golden figurine to Caxton (the armory-shop-keeper) and talked to him last, even if it only was to check, if you can upgrade some items, he will be your love... (This once happened to me...)
This doesn't always function, however, because not every important character is available the whole game...

[zadymek]

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Another spoiler regarding your love:

That's not how this mechanics works. The Beloved is picked upon completion of Deny Salvation - signaled by the Arisen Bond lying on the ground by the Greatwall (if it was given). And it's the last NPC who has reached highest Affinity up to this point.

[zadymek]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphomania

Great, you have the source. Now let me quote something else from the same place
"Outside the psychiatric definitions of graphomania and related conditions, the word is used more broadly to label the urge and need to write excessively, professionally or not. "

[Migromul]

Publicado originalmente por zadymek:

Publicado originalmente por Migromul:

Another spoiler regarding your love:

That's not how this mechanics works. The Beloved is picked upon completion of Deny Salvation - signaled by the Arisen Bond lying on the ground by the Greatwall (if it was given). And it's the last NPC who has reached highest Affinity up to this point.

Yes, maybe, I wasn't exactly correct, what quest chooses the love (it's been a while since I played the game last.). BUT: after Deny salvation it's the character, with highest affinity AND the one, you last talked to. With priority of the former requirement, of course. The last talked character only gets in, if you have more than one with max affinity. So, you shouldn't give the AB before you get to the dragon, but before you make "deny salvation". But all other things, I said, are still true.

[zadymek]

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You're quoting the Wikipedia at me? Modern English has multiple better synonyms for the word and most decent people avoid using it due to the unfortunate historical conatations. Either your English is out-dated or you used it as a deliberate insult, then attempted to double-down into another Mental Health insult.

Uh yes, it was ad personam nitpick (I'm not very PC y know;). I was "insulting" your excessive writing, that's all.

Publicado originalmente por Migromul:

BUT: after Deny salvation it's the character, with highest affinity AND the one, you last talked to. With priority of the former requirement, of course. The last talked character only gets in, if you have more than one with max affinity.

No, it's not. It's the last NPC who achieved highest Affinity. And it happens on clearing Deny Salvation (the rooftop scene, unless you mean the second Beloved?).
Trust me, I checked this.

[Migromul]

Publicado originalmente por zadymek:

Publicado originalmente por Boink:

You're quoting the Wikipedia at me? Modern English has multiple better synonyms for the word and most decent people avoid using it due to the unfortunate historical conatations. Either your English is out-dated or you used it as a deliberate insult, then attempted to double-down into another Mental Health insult.

Uh yes, it was ad personam nitpick (I'm not very PC y know;). I was"insulting" you excessive writing, that's all.

Publicado originalmente por Migromul:

BUT: after Deny salvation it's the character, with highest affinity AND the one, you last talked to. With priority of the former requirement, of course. The last talked character only gets in, if you have more than one with max affinity.

No, it's not. It's the last NPC who achieved highest Affinity. And it happens on clearing Deny Salvation (the rooftop scene, unless you mean the second Beloved?).
Trust me, I checked this.

Well, then maybe Caxton hadn't got max affinity, in the game he became the love of me... and got it, when I visited his shop. I remember, that I gave the AB to someone else before that, however. I don't remember, who it was exactly, but maybe Selene or Madeleine. But Caxton was the last character, I talked to, before I did deny salvation...
Maybe, it's the character, who last got some affinity, even if he/she was max already. I don't know, if this is the case by just talking to someone. But if you buy or sell something at Caxton's, he will get affinity, and if it's only a tiny bit.
I NEVER chose Caxton on purpose (and never will...) But he was my love one time.. The one who was kidnapped by the dragon. I even believe, I started a fresh game after that fact, if it isn't possible to load a hard-safe before the choosing at that point anymore. (As I said, It's been a while.)

[SlvtDanteChosenOne14]

dragons dogma is mostly open world, so most quests you can come back too.

[littlekrogan]

If you pick up every quest and letter in the notice board with minimal grinding you should be at least level 10 by the time you go inside the well.
At least it's not dark souls dogde and hit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ass gameplay.

[Kvinden]

I started a new game. my old character was erased and it started at level 1.
So, yes, at the beginning the game is hard. But now, after some levels (70) it is becoming easy. I stopped playing with the previous lvl 200 character because the game was too easy, even in hard mode.
So, I recommend a little patience and if a quest seems too hard and you die, choose restart from savepoint and do something else. It is not because you receive a quest that you must do it immediately.
And if you can't do something there is no need to spoil the game with a walktrhough, spend some rift crystals and hire a higher level pawn or two. They will teach your own pawn how to fight the ennemies or will fight them for you and your pawn will learn even if it doesn't fight itself.
For the lizards in the well, hire any level 30 pawn, stay at a distance and enjoy the show. Do not hesitate to spend rift crystals, you'll end having too many anyway and the counter is capped.