Black Cat gear any good?

[Ozzina Arcane]

I see lots of really expensive stuff at the Black Cat but their stats don't look that great. Do they not show their true potential until upgraded or something?

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

BBI.

[Boboscus]

Majority of gear from that shop has some special effect but they're overall much worse than the rest of powerful gear, like BBI for example, which is on top of everything.

[BurlsoL]

Dragon tempered or rarified some of the equipment can be very good. Most of it however is more of a niche situatiional stuff that you may not necessarily get much use from in normal play.

Ancient set has good resistances.

Force Hatchet is fun to use.

Legions Might helps make low level mages useful.

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

Caged Fury is strongest staff in the game as long as you can deal with its drawbacks. Warrior weapons are all pretty decent in their own way.

[CasualGamer]

There are some weapons which could be game breaking for a vocation or at least change the style of the gameplay, and they are available very early .
For sorcerers, caged fury , for warriors, stamina hammer and iraklis, for assassin , forced hatchet and for mages , Legion's might.
All these are very useful weapons which give you advantage early in the game.

[JtDarth]

The black cat equipment is all stuff that was dlc in the original game back on console. None of it is overpowered, and the majority of it is maybe upper-middle end at best statistically. Their selling point, for the weapons, were the unique effects they had that could let you do some interesting things and altered playstyle a bit. For the armors and clothing, it's pretty much just fashion stuff.

When Dark Arisen came out back on console, they shoved all the DLC stuff into the Black Cat rather than shoving it in your inventory at the start so that they could avoid breaking the early-game economy for new players. In the original game before Dark Arisen, the items were added to your inventory after purchase. The price was jacked up so that players couldn't get a massive leg up immediately upon reaching Gran Soren, with some of the gear from the DLC being signifigantly better than anything else available at Gran Soren for a long time.

[CasualGamer]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

The price was jacked up so that players couldn't get a massive leg up immediately upon reaching Gran Soren, with some of the gear from the DLC being signifigantly better than anything else available at Gran Soren for a long time.

There is a big game oversight to this . The ruminator monocle is in the inventory from start. When sold, it gives 3,20 000 G. This amount is sufficient to get one black cat weapon at level 10.

[BurlsoL]

Originally posted by CasualGamer:

There is a big game oversight to this .

Add it to the pile of other oversights in this game.

[CasualGamer]

Originally posted by BurlsoL:

Originally posted by CasualGamer:

There is a big game oversight to this .

Add it to the pile of other oversights in this game.

:-)

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Just read the descriptions (rather check the wiki).
They all have a very specific feature that make them very usefull in specific conditions or against specific ennemies.
The wiki has an extensive section about it, some are very powerfull but tricky to figure out.

[Migromul]

Originally posted by CasualGamer:

Originally posted by JtDarth:

The price was jacked up so that players couldn't get a massive leg up immediately upon reaching Gran Soren, with some of the gear from the DLC being signifigantly better than anything else available at Gran Soren for a long time.

There is a big game oversight to this . The ruminator monocle is in the inventory from start. When sold, it gives 3,20 000 G. This amount is sufficient to get one black cat weapon at level 10.

If you manage to get to gran soren on hard difficulty, you might have that amount anyway, regardless of selling the monocle, though.

and it's 320.000, not 3.20 000 :) (a point or space every 3 digits)

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by CasualGamer:

Originally posted by JtDarth:

The price was jacked up so that players couldn't get a massive leg up immediately upon reaching Gran Soren, with some of the gear from the DLC being signifigantly better than anything else available at Gran Soren for a long time.

There is a big game oversight to this . The ruminator monocle is in the inventory from start. When sold, it gives 3,20 000 G. This amount is sufficient to get one black cat weapon at level 10.

That's something that they did only on the PC and remastered console ports, AFAIK. That means it's something the port team did, not the original developers. Probably cause it's easier to just place items in storage (probably via deleting the DLC ownership check) than it is to add them for sale at a shop.

Same way they didn't bother to renegotiate licensing for the weapons and armor from Berserk, nor apparently the Japanese audio. Which really sucks because the white hawk set was really good looking and meshed reasonably well as a mismash for fashion in general, while the Japanese audio is always nice to have.

In the original release of Dark arisen, the ruminators monocle and other items that are placed in your storage on start (on the remastered ports, meaning windows, xbox one, ps4, and presumably switch) were from a post Dark arisen DLC.

[CasualGamer]

Originally posted by Migromul:

Originally posted by CasualGamer:

There is a big game oversight to this . The ruminator monocle is in the inventory from start. When sold, it gives 3,20 000 G. This amount is sufficient to get one black cat weapon at level 10.

If you manage to get to gran soren on hard difficulty, you might have that amount anyway, regardless of selling the monocle, though.

and it's 320.000, not 3.20 000 :) (a point or space every 3 digits)

That is American style I mean when you quote it in million or billion. I have been taught in terms of lakhs and crores , so there that notion I used make sense.

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by CasualGamer:

Originally posted by Migromul:

If you manage to get to gran soren on hard difficulty, you might have that amount anyway, regardless of selling the monocle, though.

and it's 320.000, not 3.20 000 :) (a point or space every 3 digits)

That is American style I mean when you quote it in million or billion. I have been taught in terms of lakhs and crores , so there that notion I used make sense.

Uh, no. Numbers and notation work the same pretty much everywhere but India, barring dying/dead languages from insular communities. The notation you called 'American style' is the same notation used pretty much everywhere, it's international standard. I've never seen or heard of any other place using a different notation for numbers.
Don't use region-specific notation when on an international forum, it's rather rude/annoying and causes issues, especially when you don't bother to explain it.
It's the equivalent of switching to a local native language mid-sentence when speaking to a foreigner.

[CasualGamer]

Originally posted by JtDarth:

Originally posted by CasualGamer:

That is American style I mean when you quote it in million or billion. I have been taught in terms of lakhs and crores , so there that notion I used make sense.

Uh, no. Numbers and notation work the same pretty much everywhere but India, barring dying/dead languages from insular communities. The notation you called 'American style' is the same notation used pretty much everywhere, it's international standard. I've never seen or heard of any other place using a different notation for numbers.
Don't use region-specific notation when on an international forum, it's rather rude/annoying and causes issues, especially when you don't bother to explain it.
It's the equivalent of switching to a local native language mid-sentence when speaking to a foreigner.

Didn't do it consciously.Thanks for explanation.